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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Some tests - I would say it just works...

Gunleik Groven said:
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Hello Gunleik,

Thanks a lot for sharing these telling shots!
I was wondering if you see some excess of highlight saturation near to the white roll off? Is it due to the Beta REDCINE-X? Or RC3 or RLogFilm? Or is it me? ;-)

Thanks

Pat
 
I remember a post where Jim told us that Dragon could be compared to 65mm film. The cityscapes of Oslo you've posted reminds me of the IMAX-shots in Dark Knight. Quite exciting.
 
Gunleik Groven said:
trying to sum what i see up in a few sentences....

and i am afraid i will not talk numbers.

i have never found the red cameras "hard to use" or "buggy", but...

dragon has the "it" factor.
the images just feel right. everything "just works".

i have thought of the time, some 20 years ago, when i got sponsored by drum workshop, and put my old slingerland drums to rest.
did not make me a better drummer.
but they gave me an incredible amount of options and control with the added fidelity and tonal possibilities.

having shot for a few days now, i feel like i have met a friend i did not know i until recently, but when she has entered my life, it is no turning back...

have i shot comparative tests?

nope.

i have been more eager to find out what the dragon can do on its own, than how it measures up.
and it is indeed an inspiring tool!

as to direct comparisons with other cameras, i do not have the time, it is premature still and frankly not as interesting as it used to be.
i have shot the epic for a few hours and know what i would like to see in its successor. and in dragon i have yet to trigger any of the challenges i know from epic.

firmware and rcx have been stable, too

looking foreward to put my hands on the dragonized color science.

my guess is that will be a "new cam all over" experience.
i am not implying anything bad about the current, but have a feel that there is even more potential in there

dragon is just cool and sexy
And gentle and roaring

fun things

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I think this says more than any numbers could.
 
Gunleik Groven said:
100 mm Master @ 1.3.

Tungsten/lowlight.

I will put up 6k jpg files.

The masters are scary... :)
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Beautiful Gunleik.

The Camera Data in Photoshop says: Epic-X S/N 102-974-FA5

I wonder if in upgrading the sensor, this camera's metadata wasn't changed to say Dragon rather than X. Not a big deal, just curious.

I'm sure the mono is a great camera, but for any monochrome that I'd ever do, this is spectacular.
 
Patrick Tresch said:
Hello Gunleik,

Thanks a lot for sharing these telling shots!
I was wondering if you see some excess of highlight saturation near to the white roll off? Is it due to the Beta REDCINE-X? Or RC3 or RLogFilm? Or is it me? ;-)

Thanks

Pat
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In this shot THAT is my fault. Not the cam

it is just that I pushed the contrast to exaggerate what happens in here. NOT due to any camerafault!

G
 
Andy Roberts said:
Beautiful Gunleik.

The Camera Data in Photoshop says: Epic-X S/N 102-974-FA5

I wonder if in upgrading the sensor, this camera's metadata wasn't changed to say Dragon rather than X. Not a big deal, just curious.

I'm sure the mono is a great camera, but for any monochrome that I'd ever do, this is spectacular.
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I would not know...
 
Metadata in RCX says Dragon for me, but not in the EXIF when uploaded as JPG stills. Bound to be just beta stuff with RCX. Monochrome identifies itself correctly in EXIF despite being very niche :)
 
The important thing is that we acknowledge that this isn't by the "numbers" or tests to end all tests; but even at this stage - thanks to the great work done by our front line - it doesn't take a scholar to see the potential in Dragon, and know that Jim, Jarred, Graeme and Co. have delivered on their promises, and then some. And they made some hefty promises. ( :

Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to show us Dragon images and shared their thoughts.
 
Thanks for the pictures and descriptions Gunleik. Can you say whether the tech testing you've been doing for RED is for their internal use only, or is it more like shooting reference or demonstration material that might be made public in some way in the future? Just want to know if it's something to keep an eye out for.
 
Les Hillis said:
Thanks for the pictures and descriptions Gunleik. Can you say whether the tech testing you've been doing for RED is for their internal use only, or is it more like shooting reference or demonstration material that might be made public in some way in the future? Just want to know if it's something to keep an eye out for.
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I really would not know.

I just appreciate the chance to try to contribute in my small ways.
 
This Oslo shot is incredible!

We can navigate in it like if it was taken with a 6x6 camera on 50 asa. I was looking for white and black areas. There are none... perhaps under the bridge... but we still see the pillars...!
I was wondering if it is Jpeg compression or R3D, we can see some aliasing. Would love to play with the R3D. Gunleik did you remember wich compression you used?

Thanks

Pat

BTW Oslo panorama should become the camera testing site!
 
OK.

I get a lot of questions on lowlight performance.

And I shoot most of my stuff at 800/5600 (also for this test)

But here is what I guess is a decent example on what to expect.

Lit with fluorescent light in my hall... BAD lighting conditions, that is! ;)

Master (65, I think) @ 1.3

1st is @ 800/5600

2nd is WBed with the picker to 2644 and tint -14 at 3200 ISO, thus pushed 2 stops.

You be the judge of that...

Both are straight out of RCX and only correction is WB/ISO

Just used Lightroom to transcode to jpg.

;)

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NOW I am done posting images...
 
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