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DRAGON - ITS THE REAL DEAL !!!!

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Thank you for giving us a good and practical first look at the new Dragon sensor. Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule. Again, kudo's for the effort. Mark+Dragon, you done good mate!
 
I'm literally in awe watching this video. I need this camera right now :) The dynamic range, the sensitivity... everything. There are shots at 17:1 that I'm not sure would have even held up at 8:1 with my Scarlet MX. The word "game changer" is way overused, but in this case it absolutely applies. And everything we are looking at it with RC/RG3? Not new color science? Amazing...

Thanks for making this Mark!
 
LOW ISO NO PENALTY

LOW ISO NO PENALTY

Thanks Mark for the great first impressions and first images of an uncaged DRAGON !
Congrats to Jim, Jarred and all RED task force !

I see several shot were exposed at 250 ISO (some of them later pushed to 4000...) and see you are using VND filter on some shots to compensate for strong lights, but I am still curious on what Jarred teased as "Low ISO no penalty" on DRAGON cameras. Is 250 the minimum ISO value for the moment ... or will we be able to shoot at 125, 64 or even 25 ISO ?

Motion Mount on Dragon will form an amazing versatile image capture device but I was wondering about low ISO on bare DRAGON.
 
Thanks Toia, really amazing test! So I'm buying an Epic Monday...and once it arrives signing up for Dragon...
 
Can't wait. Really.

4000 ISO is totally usable, that means with some quality noise reduction 8000 ISO or maybe even 16.000 ISO should be usable ! Pretty amazing !

September can't come soon enough ;-)
 
Wow,
Just moved from Scarlet to Epic, and looking at this i am blown away. As soon as i can ( moving in a few weeks), ill be moving up to Dragon.
Have booked an appointment with Satan, see how much he will give me for my soul ( its only had one user, non smoker, tea total), whats one going for these days :)
 
Thanks a lot Mark. Great test as allways.
I'm allways amazed of your nice locations right where you live. You live in paradise man.
This is a swiss guy saying it. :biggrin:

It looks like you could shoot 6400 Iso and get away with it for a commercial job. How far would you push it for your jobs and be perfectly fine?

Thanks mate
Tim
 
Eric Z said:
David,
I have read Mark's notes, and watched the video a few times with close attention to details and DR.
The fact of the matter is - I have seen footage from EPIC M-X that looks very much like what I'm seeing here.
Now, considering that some of the shots were at 17:1 compression, and considering these are all ungraded (except for some small adjustments in RC-X), I do like what I see.

Mind you, it's really hard to judge such a compressed down-ressed video.

However, would be nice to see exactly how much of a difference there is, so I can appreciate the Dragon better.
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Hi Eric,

We did start shooting back to back tests, but it quickly dawned on us that it was a waste of time. The images showing on the touch screens were so different, one was showing alot kore info than the other straight up. and after our first round of RCX tests we decided to stop doing back to back, because we didn't need too...

So I apologise, we won't be posting back to back tests. But I'm sure some pixels hunters out there will over time.
 
Mark Toia said:
Hi Eric,

We did start shooting back to back tests, but it quickly dawned on us that it was a waste of time. The images showing on the touch screens were so different, one was showing alot kore info than the other straight up. and after our first round of RCX tests we decided to stop doing back to back, because we didn't need too...

So I apologise, we won't be posting back to back tests. But I'm sure some pixels hunters out there will over time.
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Mark why there are no 3:1 compression shots
 
Mark Toia said:
Hi Eric,

We did start shooting back to back tests, but it quickly dawned on us that it was a waste of time. The images showing on the touch screens were so different, one was showing alot kore info than the other straight up. and after our first round of RCX tests we decided to stop doing back to back, because we didn't need too...

So I apologise, we won't be posting back to back tests. But I'm sure some pixels hunters out there will over time.
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pushing the iso and the compression and then down rezzing it give such beautiful images. I am sure its going to be crazy when the compression is lower.
 
Mikael Lubtchansky said:
Thanks Mark for the great first impressions and first images of an uncaged DRAGON !
Congrats to Jim, Jarred and all RED task force !

I see several shot were exposed at 250 ISO (some of them later pushed to 4000...) and see you are using VND filter on some shots to compensate for strong lights, but I am still curious on what Jarred teased as "Low ISO no penalty" on DRAGON cameras. Is 250 the minimum ISO value for the moment ... or will we be able to shoot at 125, 64 or even 25 ISO ?

Motion Mount on Dragon will form an amazing versatile image capture device but I was wondering about low ISO on bare DRAGON.
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Motion mount and the DRAGON thats the jiz. Forget about VND's , they compromise the image when used to hard, and useless with wide lenses, .

Also... 250iso is my new base, the results are amazing !
 
Paul Russell said:
Hey Mark

thanks for doing this. It looks great, especially the higher ISO stuff.
One thing that's puzzling me is the shot at 4:39. There's a lot of noise in the dark areas of the spoiler. Is that the H.264 compression or is it on the R3D?
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That would be noise, I dug really deep to find detail as i was exposing for highlights @F22, The shadow details were 8 stops away....
 
Thanks Mark for your time and efforts. And thanks to the Red team for producing something so awesome.
 
This needs to be encoded for Redray:-P Awesome footage, can not wait for the upgrade:-)
 
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