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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

REDRAY Comments

Larry Kelly said:
Actually it was described as a scanning laser projector with the benefits of CRT with inky blacks but the brightness that the laser brings to the table. This was early in the development and there were video interviews where it was described in this way.
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Reference or link?

I've been following this development since it was announced (and projector tech for the last decade), and while there was much speculation on the forum, I've never seen red describe the Red projector as a direct-raster laser device. Perhaps it was described as scanning the imager... but if you have a reference otherwise, I'd love to see it.

Thanks.

-sc
 
Stuart English said:
This unit is the standalone player and can be used in a wide variety of applications. In addition there are two laser projection systems - REDRAY Projector (consumer) and CRIMSON (theatrical); both of which include the same REDRAY 4K 3D engine, that will be formally introduced later.
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So, it won't be the same unit upgradable anymore. I have somebody interested in the Crimson for his theater. What are the stated prices now? Is below $10k just for the consumer?

Thanks again.
 
Steven Caesare said:
Reference or link?

I've been following this development since it was announced (and projector tech for the last decade), and while there was much speculation on the forum, I've never seen red describe the Red projector as a direct-raster laser device. Perhaps it was described as scanning the imager... but if you have a reference otherwise, I'd love to see it.

Thanks.

-sc
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Well, I don't want to drag up old news and as far as the current technology that's in the Projector goes, we are where we are and that's fine. It was just a bit disappointing to me after hearing a video interview from one of the RED gurus saying it was a scanning laser technology. Since then I've been talking up the projector to a number of people only to find that what I've been telling them has not been accurate. I don't think that there was any discussion about changing direction or I likely would have seen it as I have been following quite closely too. All that aside, I am going to be saving my pennies for a Red Ray projector and looking forward to both viewing content from artists world wide and taking advantage of the opportunity to distribute my content world wide. What an amazing time to be in this business! In the meantime, I will be nursing along my aging CRT projector in my private little theatre.

Larry
 
Stuart English said:
Actually no, unlike existing HD video streaming services, the REDRAY player is network download speed agnostic.

If you do have a fast download that's nice, but REDRAY works anywhere there is an internet service - of any speed.
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Mike 'Fireman' Ross said:
Food for Redray thought, ladies & gentlemen:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/12/netflix_fastest_isp/

Mike
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Irrespective of the pipeline, audiences will have access to 4K content via the Net.
 
Wayne Morellini said:
So, it won't be the same unit upgradable anymore. I have somebody interested in the Crimson for his theater. What are the stated prices now? Is below $10k just for the consumer?

Thanks again.
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It will cost more for the theater owner. I read previously that the Crimson will have interchangeable lenses. Below 10k will have a fixed lens which will be fine for the user projecting at living room/studio spaces. I also suspect that the redray player for a crimson will be tricked out.
 
What we know. Crimson will cost more than the "home" unit and will have interchangeable lenses as Max has mentioned. It's likely going to be less expensive than current 4K projection options.

And more importantly, it's laser based. This is rather important as it solves some of the technical shortcomings of bulb based projection systems.

The future of REDRAY is bright :)
 
To me the crimsom Projector was a surprise. I just hope this doesn't turn out similar to the whole 3k for $3k thing. (Although eventually we got 4k for $4k ;).
 
As an aside, I wonder if Apple's secret TV project will be a "retina" display, based on 4K specs. Probably not, but it seems to me that by the time they actually release something, 4K will be the home consumer buzz and they won't want to be perceived as not on the cutting edge.
 
I suspect that the concept of the Projector being "upgradeable" with the addition of extra Laser lighting units has been abandoned. This is a shame but not surprising - one of the most serious engineering problems is how to keep the Laser diodes safe - or rather how to keep people safe from them. The interconnecting fibre between light engine and projector would have been a nightmare since the engines would have to instantaneously power-down if any damage or disconnection occurred. Serious reliability issues and serious issues in getting the design passed by the appropriate health and safety authorities. The design of the integration optics would have been pretty tasty as well.

A modular system would have had interesting implications for my own industry (AV) but we shall see.

I'll plug my article on laser illuminated projectors again if anybody is still confused as to how they work:

Laser Projection
 
I suspect that the concept of the Projector being "upgradeable" with the addition of extra Laser lighting units has been abandoned. This is a shame but not surprising - one of the most serious engineering problems is how to keep the Laser diodes safe - or rather how to keep people safe from them. The interconnecting fibre between light engine and projector would have been a nightmare since the engines would have to instantaneously power-down if any damage or disconnection occurred. Serious reliability issues and serious issues in getting the design passed by the appropriate health and safety authorities. The design of the integration optics would have been pretty tasty as well. [/URL]
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That's an interesting bunch of assumptions you've made there Vincent.

Then again a 5K RAW 120fps modular camera probably sounds like a pretty scary technical challenge too ...
 
Stuart English said:
That's an interesting bunch of assumptions you've made there Vincent.

Then again a 5K RAW 120fps modular camera probably sounds like a pretty scary technical challenge too ...
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+1,000,000
 
Stuart, can you elaborate anymore on the issue of DCI DCP compatibility. Jarred's response to me was confusing (something about passthrough?).

Can I hookup a Doremi/GDC/Qube/Dolby DCI DCP server to the Crimson or Home projector and playback Hollywood encrypted DCPs with KDMs?

Thanks.
 
Can you tell us what inputs will be available on the "smaller" RedRay projector?

Also, when can we start asking questions about ODEMAX channel options, distribution, etc..? Do we have to wait until after the big announcement and launch of the players or...?
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Can you tell us what inputs will be available on the "smaller" RedRay projector?

Also, when can we start asking questions about ODEMAX channel options, distribution, etc..? Do we have to wait until after the big announcement and launch of the players or...?
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We'll discuss those subjects in more detail a bit later...
 
Phil McCarty said:
[Another slightly different perspective of the RedRay event Friday.]

It's infectious when people are enthusiastic about the things that they're engaged in.

These guys are just so damned excited to share what they've been working on you can tell it just KILLS them to sit on it.

It's not a "WOO HOO we're gonna fucking kill [company] or AW YEAH we're gonna be PRINTING money" motivation which is so popular and played out for some industries. It's more of a childlike (but not childish) "We made something cool and we can't wait for you to see it." which is a hard thing to hold onto as an adult, and harder still to create in other adults.

I dig it very much.
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That is a very powerful force. Infectious enthusiasm. Elusive and intriguing. I dig it too. I am pretty new to REDuser, and mostly a projector guy just reading up, but I am seeing a lot of it here, and it can be pretty hard to come by out there. Makes me want to see the projector just that much more.
 
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I comprehend the desire not to share too much with your competitors. That said, those of us that want nothing more than to make using the RED platform as fluid as possible could sure use some guidance on how to most efficiently deploy our resources, sooo

What's a smart config for a computer aimed at doing lots of .RED encodes?

CPU - faster clock speed, more cores
MoBo/Socket -
RAM -
GPU -
PCIe bandwidth
multiple rockets
OS
I/O

Are you better off with one screaming Workstation or distributed rendering on a farm?

Inquiring minds want to encode ;-)

Cheers - #19
 
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