RED ONE collectors...

[peter roehsler]

I am with you on this
I own Leica #169 (serial production started with #130).
peter

 

[Nikolai Pigarev]

i own RED 1397. And in terms of history i will not sell it either. It is not an early serial number but it had a huge impact on my life and thats were its value comes from! keep it going.

 

[Felix van Oost]

Will there be any deposits for the Scarlet? It would be a dream of mine to be one of the first...

 

[Steve Gal]

Jim,

What's included in your camera collection?

Just curious........

Dave

I know there is an Arri S Super-16 Du-All Special in there.

 

[Curran Giddens]

i own RED 1397. And in terms of history i will not sell it either. It is not an early serial number but it had a huge impact on my life and thats were its value comes from! keep it going.

Same here. #561 has too much sentimental value to ever sell it. Not a very early serial number but it was the best I could do without going to NAB. Some of us had to save every penny for 2 years to afford our RED ONE.

 

[Jeremy Torrie]

Jim you cam come to Belgrade in March with #3 and I will take you up on your offer.
I'm writing, directing, DP'ing and exec producing a feature...I'd gladly hand off some work to you -and take advantage of that lovely M-X sensor!

 

[Elsie N]

There is no value in material things, only the soul that drives them...

The ideal of the RED camera is not in the sculpted metal and circuit boards, but in what it inspires people to believe they can achieve. The legacy of the RED ONE will not be in a museum or in someone's collection, but in the life experience, dreams and work of those who were inspired.

I agree, but it is the touching/seeing the material thing that brings the story of the inspiration to life, and thus further inspires.

The physical artifact is what keeps the story alive.

 

[Michael Thornton]

My original number was #37.

My Bank thought it was a scam so they canceled the deposit.

Came back the next day and lost my place and got bumped to over 150 places.

:-(

Thanks a lot B of A.

I wonder who end up with my #37 now?

Michael T.

 

[Greg M]

Collecting is a very personal thing, I don't collect many cameras but I have a few. The jewell of my collection is a 1960's Leica M4 given to me by the famous Rock and Roll photographer Jim Marshall while I was assisting him. I don't know what photos it may have taken but here are some of his from that era...

Now that is sweet Evin, a very nice collectible!!! I guess Jim no longer need the M4 since he went digital

Here is his new M9, a gift from Leica w/ his signature engraved. My first 35mm was a Leica IIIf, which I still have.

 

[Steve Gibby]

I received Red serial #0008 on August 31, 2007 at the exact same time serial numbers 6 through 24 were received, at the very first Red Day.

Among the historic "firsts" of Red 0008:

World's first Red 4k 3D production, used in tandem on a Paracam rig with Red 0013 on 9/2/07 at Paradise FX. The short production was edited on site by Lucas using a Scratch system, then projected for the crew to view.

World's first underwater housing for Red was designed and fabricated using Red 0008 by Mike Hastings from 9/8/07 to 9/14/07. It was a PVC housing.

World's first underwater footage with Red was shot on 9/17/07 using Red 0008 at Catalina Island in the housing Hastings made. Ken Corben and John Friday shot the footage that day.

To my knowledge, the first professional sports event shot by a multiple Red camera crew was the Pipeline Masters pro surfing contest on Oahu in early December 2007. I field produced and directed that 3-Red camera production, also personally using Red 0008 for the long lens land-based footage, while Ken Corben used "London" for aerial footage from an A-Star helicopter with a Tyler mount, and "Hollywood" was used by my in-water camera shooter in the Hastings PVC housing.

World's first custom lightweight aluminum surf zone housing was designed from Red 0008 in January 2008 by Sean LaBrie at SPL (San Diego) and used for polecam work shortly thereafter in the making of the "Icy Killers" wildlife documentary in Alaska.

Red 0008 and my other Red camera ("London"), along with Blair Paulsen's Red 0019 were part of the historic 10-Red camera HDTV and BluRay production of the classic rock band Journey in Manila, Philippines last year.

Since I received them my Red cameras have traveled the world being used in a long list of international and national television programs, commercials, and music videos.

As we speak I'm way down on the coast of Chile with Red 0008 shooting Peregrine falcons being tagged for satellite tracking, then next week me, Red 0008, and "London" will be in Seattle as part of a 6-Red camera HDTV and BluRay production covering the classic rock band Heart in concert at Paul Allen's EMP facility. Blair Paulsen's Red 0019 is also part of the arsenal for Heart.

After the Heart gig, there are many other high-profile gigs coming up that Red 0008 and "London" will be involved with.

My Red cameras have never been rented out. They've been strictly used on productions I've been involved with - but that includes many high-profile productions all over the world. I take very good care of my equipment - those who see my cameras usually remark that they look like they're new.

What's Red 0008 worth? A lot I guess...

I also have a pretty good idea what "London" is worth too...a lot.

 

[Jay A. Kelley]

Hey Steve,

The camera is not worth near as much as the operator where you're concerned.

:seeya:

Jay

 

[alex lemon]

I think for any of the low serial number Red Ones to maintain their full value as a potential future collectors item they'd have to stay in their original condition - i.e. no M-X upgrade.

 

[christopher witzke]

hehe.... thought I'd snap a pic of my RED amongst some of my cameras.... Most of my RED accoutrement is at the studio so it's bare bones in this shot on a little miller... you can just get a hint of my daguerreotype camera above the RED.....

just a fun note... the big 11X14 camera in the foreground.... back around 1992 I gaffer taped a flatbed scanner to the rear standard and shot some pretty interesting digital images with it.... could never get color right, but the b&w's were decent. Had to take out the flo tube and hit and miss with focus for a while, but cool non the less.

 

[shashbugu]

What makes you think #31 has seen the most action? Remember you said "absolutely". Do you think the rest of us just come on the boards all day all night just to hang out with you? I feel really insulted especially since I don't own a Red. Do You know How many different Reds I have rented? I will have you know its cheaper faster and smarter to rent and use a Red than any other Pro Camera out there. aah the audacity LOL

 

[Sterling Wescott]

:drool5:
That puts my collection to shame.

 

[shashbugu]

No offense to the camera, but if I were OffHollywod Mark I would sell at least one of those cameras for that price. Reasoning: I think Jim is currently the only one who would pay that much for it right now. I'm no collector, so I can't tell you what this camera would be worth in, say 20 years, but unless we're talking the first camera or the first three, it seems there will be a limited number of bidders. In 20 years that same 200k put in the market even with loss protection through something like a market link CD would earn maybe an average of 5% / year conservatively compounded it's going to be worth over 500k (granted inflation could hit but maybe the market hits and you make 10%). And if you were wrong, then you still have the other camera to keep your grand children in college for life all because somehow you got ahead of me in line on that day at NAB... I mean... because you believed in the impossible.

Personally, I grew up on welfare and I own very few things (I don't even have a TV that plays cable, but I do have a RED One, go figure), so it's possible I don't understand the value attrition of rare things.... But for me, I'd take that 200k and invest it into my film projects because I've spent a career earning other people millions and it'd be nice to share in that end. Once I get the epic I don't think I'll be thinking about the RED One much - even after it is becomes MX next week. I will be thinking a lot about the images coming out of the Epic though and how that will change my and other people's lives.

Well Said. I applaud you my friend.

 

[Jeremy Neish]

Alex makes a good point... We have RED #63 and have been saving up for M-X upgrade, now I'm reconsidering the upgrade on the grounds of it making the camera less collectable... Hrmmm... What are everybody's opinions on whether an upgraded sub #100 SN RED ONE is more or less valuable unmodified vs MX upgraded?

I'm also a collector of a lot of things, (probably my most rare being an original NeXT computer poster, only a few were made, and I as far as I know, I have the only intact one left).

That being said, I have to say I'm enough of a pragmatist, I'd be a bit tempted to sell our unmodified #63 for enough to buy a higher serial RED One that we could upgrade to M-X plus have enough cash left over to buy a full blown Epic X package... For the record, our camera was used to film one of the very first RED only movies in November and December 2007 "Seres Genesis" (still not released) and in 2008 it was "A" camera on S.Darko (which had quite a but of footage featured in one of the RED demo reels.) Since then it's mostly been used for corporate work.

Interesting thread...

 

[christopher witzke]

I also own another very early Red, and I have a pretty good idea what its worth.

uhhhh.... are you saying you have a Tattoo!!!!!?????

 

[Elsie N]

i own two cameras in the high 1000's. In these times of clabber and vinegar (used to be milk and honey) I could sell one of them for less than I paid for it and it would make an enormous difference in my everyday (material) quality of living. Neither one is for sale. I've grown attached to them both and if I get thrown out on the street, I've got a neat little bag for each of them that makes them easy to carry.

 

[shashbugu]

i own two cameras in the high 1000's. In these times of clabber and vinegar (used to be milk and honey) I could sell one of them for less than I paid for it and it would make an enormous difference in my everyday (material) quality of living. Neither one is for sale. I've grown attached to them both and if I get thrown out on the street, I've got a neat little bag for each of them that makes them easy to carry.

Ha Ha thats really cool LOL