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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RED ONE collectors...

Jim you are a rockstar. Great seeing you at the Red Day.

RED998 has been shooting all over the world. Search that tag on flickr. Been to about 15-20 countries.

fun times!

Mike
 
Jannard said:
I remember offering every one of the 1st 25 to give up their place for $5K plus airfare at the 1st RED Day in 2007. No one accepted. What a day! #6-25 are special in the history of RED. When the book gets written, the names of these people will go down as the brave 1st adopters.

Jim
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You need to add #27 to that list, I was there and got that offer...and laughed in reply along with the others :-)
 
A bit off topic perhaps, but where or when is it possible to watch the complete "Crosing the Line" movie?
 
What is worth is not only the current price someone can get for it. As one of the first hundred, many of us were offered 17K premium or more. I think some took the offer thinking it was a great deal-

Those of us who kept our RED's probably made closer to 100K, but financials isn't as meaning full as getting the chance to break into the biz, working with top directors, and DP's and doing what you love. It's been great, and I don't entertain the thought of parting with it.

Now- time to shoot that M-X feature
 
Collecting is a very personal thing, I don't collect many cameras but I have a few. The jewell of my collection is a 1960's Leica M4 given to me by the famous Rock and Roll photographer Jim Marshall while I was assisting him. I don't know what photos it may have taken but here are some of his from that era...
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Next in line is a 1970s vintage Nikon F2 that was my grandfather's, this has sentimental value of course, as my father used it to take baby pictures of me, but my grandfather was also a very famous Life magazine photographer from the late 40s into the 70s.
Here are some of his photos (although not taken with this camera)
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Jannard said:
Mark... I'd be happy to pay $200K each for Elvis and Bond. Interested?
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No offense to the camera, but if I were OffHollywod Mark I would sell at least one of those cameras for that price. Reasoning: I think Jim is currently the only one who would pay that much for it right now. I'm no collector, so I can't tell you what this camera would be worth in, say 20 years, but unless we're talking the first camera or the first three, it seems there will be a limited number of bidders. In 20 years that same 200k put in the market even with loss protection through something like a market link CD would earn maybe an average of 5% / year conservatively compounded it's going to be worth over 500k (granted inflation could hit but maybe the market hits and you make 10%). And if you were wrong, then you still have the other camera to keep your grand children in college for life all because somehow you got ahead of me in line on that day at NAB... I mean... because you believed in the impossible. :-)

Personally, I grew up on welfare and I own very few things (I don't even have a TV that plays cable, but I do have a RED One, go figure), so it's possible I don't understand the value attrition of rare things.... But for me, I'd take that 200k and invest it into my film projects because I've spent a career earning other people millions and it'd be nice to share in that end. Once I get the epic I don't think I'll be thinking about the RED One much - even after it is becomes MX next week. :) I will be thinking a lot about the images coming out of the Epic though and how that will change my and other people's lives.
 
Jannard said:
Mark... I'd be happy to pay $200K each for Elvis and Bond. Interested?

Jim
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Sorry, Jim. ELVIS & BOND are not for sale. Not for any ANY price. They have so many more films to make - and they just wouldn't be happy sitting in a collection - they were born to capture cinematic moments.

Besides ... what cameras do think are going to shoot the 1st Tattoo unboxing on MX!
 
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I just checked the official Red website.

I can confirm Epic 645 does not exist.

What does this mean?

Get back to work.
 
I like my R1 #694.

It's one of very good customized RED1 in terms of versatility, lightweight, handheld, available light sort of shooting, etc,...

...and the most of everything you would need to shoot at any condition with that an extraordinary digital cinema acquisition system.

A collector piece.

Not for sale.
 
I am currently suspended above the "vault" on wires, cutting into it with blue beams.
 
Jannard said:
Mark... I'd be happy to pay $200K each for Elvis and Bond. Interested?

Jim
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There is no value in material things, only the soul that drives them...

The ideal of the RED camera is not in the sculpted metal and circuit boards, but in what it inspires people to believe they can achieve. The legacy of the RED ONE will not be in a museum or in someone's collection, but in the life experience, dreams and work of those who were inspired.
 
Jim,

What's included in your camera collection?

Just curious........

Dave
 
Jannard said:
I think it is now time to shoot a movie with #3 (and a few EPICs)...

Jim
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But the real question: Are you going to be part of it.

I think you have a strong and balanced vision, a bold style to say the least. Why not do something new Jim, something that scares you hopefully. I'd love to see it. Heck, I might even spec a script if something pops in my mind and you're looking for something to Executive and DP. I'd love to watch it! But are you ever gonna do one? Take some time off!

About your estimates. I think now is not the time to properly value them. You know more about RED's future... this thread is most likely an other confident and wise undertone. I know you will succeed. Wish you were publicly traded. But, as you know, now is the time to buy R1's, not sell them... I am not a collector, but if you get your way, I'd say 20 years from now any two-digit Red One will be worth what you offered Mark. Several will be worth a few times that.
 
NASHVILLE shot probably 2,000 hours of WWII film, some that hadn't been out of it's canister since the 40's. The same camera shot the WWII Vets who told us their amazing stories. I love the common denominator.

WWII in HD
 
digitalfx said:
I wouldnt sell #83 for $40k...it will eventually go into my collection of early motion picture cameras, including an Akeley Pancake, Ernemanns, Pathes, Edison Kinetoscopes and numerous other early cinema cameras.
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Greg - you should post some pics of your camera collection - you have some amazing pieces. Most amazing is the "pre-Netflix" film rental canister with return shipping.
 
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