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RED Komodo-X

andrewhake said:
My favorite Komodo setup right now is this with GDU left side handle, Red Wing side handle on the right, and compact top handle for mounting monitor and Bright Tangerine 15mm rod mount that can mount to the front of that. For tiny lenses like the 9mm Laowa and Laowa Nanomorphs the top rods are great. And help protect the lens just a bit. Also easy to swap rods down o the GDU arm for larger lenses.




Komodo-X was an easy purchase for me so much of this stuff will be ready to go with the new camera. I ended up ordering a package at about $16k with 4x1TB cards, 2x98wh batteries, 2x49wh batteries, and Pro I/O and a few other things.
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That’s one beautiful package there, Andrew.
 
Jon Pais said:
That’s one beautiful package there, Andrew.
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The compact top handle without anything else mounted in between does fit fairly low to the screen so I have to lock to screen when using that as my main grip to avoid pressing anything with knuckles. Really looking forward to a 5.5” or so DSMC3 screen to use with the Komodo-X.
 
I wonder if they will be able to decrease boot time on Komodo-X, I think people were saying it was around 40 seconds or so right? Komodo is like 25 seconds now. I think my DSMC2 Gemini boots in 40 seconds so hopefully they can improve that a bit.
 
RED Cameras 2023 Dynamic Range - feat. Raptor 8K VV, 8K S35, Komodo-X, and Komodo



By PHIL HOLLAND





** YouTube Encoding Note - The recompression via YouTube gobbles up tonal detail and creates blocky/lossy noise particularly in the LOG samples, which is the flickering and madness you are seeing. If you'd like to see cleaner stills of this, I have uploaded them here: https://www.phfx.com/stripbox.cgi?gallery=phfx/cinematography/2023_ 06_20_RED_DynamicRange

Took a moment to take a close look at all 2023 RED Digital Cinema Camera models:
- RED V-RAPTOR 8K VV - 00:12
- RED V-RAPTOR 8K S35 - 02:22
- RED KOMODO-X - 04:32
- RED KOMODO 6K S35 - 6:42

The main reasons for this test is to see how well each body can play with each other, but also to inspect the differences found when it comes to Total Captured Dynamic Range. Things I'm looking for specifically are Stop Allocation above and below 18% Gray, Understanding how much Latitude you have before Clipping, and inspecting what occurs when Crushing, as well as inspecting Image Texture across the ISO Range.

I usually like others to come to their own conclusions regarding my tests, but I took about two weeks with all cameras testing them in a variety of conditions and I have a few thoughts relevant to all of this I think are worth sharing for the curious.

There was a notable and visible improvement in Low Light and High ISO performance when looking at the Komodo-X compared to the original Komodo 6K S35. Both have similar Dynamic Range, but there is an improvement in Tone and Color Rendering near the Noise Floor as well as improved Texture. Komodo-X in general is very, very close to V-Raptor 8K S35, though the Raptor edges it out still. But this is rather phenomenal performance out of a Global Shutter and suitable for all production work in my mind, somewhat similarly impressive for the higher frame rate bodies as well. Raptor 8K S35 has an interesting calibration that sets it apart from the rest of these bodies, but that manifests essentially in 2/3rds of stop of gain to the signal in RED's internal calibration. V-Raptor 8K VV still is the top tier body in the lineup and that's more noticeable across other tests I've performed, but also can be seen here. Generally we're talking about 1 stop to 1.66 stops difference in practice across all cameras when measuring things extremely closely across the board. It is impressive what is held in the shadows on the most recent 3 bodies, which is very relevant when exposing under key or developing flatter/lower contrast looks as well as mastering for HDR.

Take note of image cleanliness here as there is no noise reduction. And remember you don't always need to shoot at ISO 800. That's essentially what I'm illustrating here. Understand your exposure techniques and the tools you have at hand within the camera. If you're looking for ultra clean imagery utilize lower ISO Ratings. If seeking a bit more Highlight Latitude and allocation of stops up there, higher ISO Ratings might be the way to go for you.
 
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The tests are excellent.
Solid, straightforward, objective tests seem impossible to come across so it's great whenever Phil delivers these. They do a great service to the community.

Amazing how clean Raptor VV is at 6400.

From a technical point of view it has to be appreciated that each of these sensors are delivering a level of performance in both image quality and features that is well beyond the norm.

Raptor S35 giving the dynamic range it does despite such small pixels and Komodo and Komodo X doing the same with a global shutter is quite an achievement.

It's another reminder of what capable tools we have available to us.

Definitely like where RED took things with DSMC 3 as to me this is easily the most solid lineup they ever produced.

Note: I think the link to Phil's screengrabs got mangled as the link doesn't work.

Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA
 
I'll have to find a way to host the ProRes encode as that really shows the goodness in motion. YouTube's recompression is frightening on that log footage. If you notice, when the image is slightly too clean and flat in this case, it just makes blocks and weird strobing. They need to fix that encoder because even my encodes with the same codecs they use don't look like that. I'm sure it's a balance of processing time and storage though.

Thank you though. I did spend a lot of time looking at these, which was actually very informative comparing them all side by side. I might dive deeper later on all this, but the summary is in the piece's title really. Hopefully those title inserts were enjoyable as well. Moderately selected those to emphasize the results shown.
 
Phil Holland said:
I'll have to find a way to host the ProRes encode as that really shows the goodness in motion. YouTube's recompression is frightening on that log footage. If you notice, when the image is slightly too clean and flat in this case, it just makes blocks and weird strobing. They need to fix that encoder because even my encodes with the same codecs they use don't look like that. I'm sure it's a balance of processing time and storage though.

Thank you though. I did spend a lot of time looking at these, which was actually very informative comparing them all side by side. I might dive deeper later on all this, but the summary is in the piece's title really. Hopefully those title inserts were enjoyable as well. Moderately selected those to emphasize the results shown.
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Thanks Phil For doing this test, I'm sure it gave all viewers a very scientific technical insight into the Varying dynamic ranges at different ISOs for each of the cameras tested.
 
LIVE STREAM 6-20-23 - Its Tuesday! Let’s Chat. We Can Talk About All Things Filmmaking and Komodo-X


By Scott Balkum


 
Excellent test that really makes it easy to understand. Red really has quite a lovely range of cameras at the moment.
 
Cinegear 2023 Recap With Tons Of New Gear - GDU and Mutiny


By Scott Balkum


 
Hello everyone, is the black version of Komodo-X scheduled to start shipping at the end of this month as planned?
 
RED Digital Cinema KomodoX Full Review With Video and Audio Examples


By Scott Balkum


 
I don't know if it's the change from the "PLANCKIAN SPECTRAL LOCUST" to the "DAYLIGHT SPECTRAL LOCUST" as Graeme explains it in post from a thread from a ways back


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But compared to the Dragon-X, the Red Komodo-X seems to exhibit more of a Magenta Cast at certain Color Temperatures and at different times of day. Maybe it's "IR POLUTION" and the Komodo-X can benefit from using an "IR CUT" filter in front of the lenses used.

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There is already an IR Cut on the Komodo-X. The square comparison issue is the OLPF/CSFs are not the same in both bodies.
 
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