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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red Dragon Dynamic Range ++

Evin Grant said:
I definitely found a few situations where the captured DR was beyond what I felt I could use to create a pleasing image. It's a fantastic problem to have but one that we're going to have to adapt to none the less.
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Ahhh hard times indeed. ;-)
 
Let's put this fire out.
Here is a compre of the Sigma vs D800 at ISO 3200. Sigma on left. From imaging resource.
Even at low ISO's the Nikon is on par.
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Sanjin Jukic said:
Brice, are you kidding?

DP1 Merrill is a stil photo camera and can't do 85fps BUT you should know it's obviously has more MTF that any cine digital camera at any time soon.

But it was not my question about doing high speed @ 85fps and the right question somehow despairs in the forum noise.

Again I asked how much is possible to push and pull shadows and highlights with Dragon?

Very easy to understand!!!

Also some people mixed a high contrast with a dynamic range that was a bit strange in a way!!!!!

A quote for an additional education:

"Overall, the dynamic range of a digital camera can therefore be described
as the ratio of maximum light intensity measurable (at pixel saturation),
to minimum light intensity measurable (above read-out noise)."

LINK>>>
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Evin Grant said:
I definitely found a few situations where the captured DR was beyond what I felt I could use to create a pleasing image.
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Is this irrelevant...would the new color science have any effect on those situations?
 
Not at all. Color aside, Generally, your eye/brain loves to see contrast, and to achieve that you have something in the image at pure white, and somewhere black. Of course I'm generalizing as you may decide otherwise for stylistic choice to have a flatter image, but the more you capture, the more challenging it can become to push those upper and lower limits.


Kyle Dones said:
Is this irrelevant...would the new color science have any effect on those situations?
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Les Dittert said:
Let's put this fire out.
Here is a compre of the Sigma vs D800 at ISO 3200. Sigma on left. From imaging resource.
Even at low ISO's the Nikon is on par.
Sigma_meril_vs_D800.jpg
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I have both D800 and Sigma DP1 Merrill and can tell you that Sigma DP1 Merrill blows up Nikon D800 in terms of resolution, colour, sharpness and DR at ISO 100 that is for both cameras best ISO to shoot!!!!

Also Sigma DP1 Merrill with its IQ is the closest camera to the middle format and much closer than any DSLR on the market today!!!

There are three incarnations with there different lenses D1 19mm (wide), D2 30mm (standard) and DP3 50mm (portrait short tele).

All three cameras together cost about the same price as D800.

IQ has the closest look to the famous Agfa Precisa 100 ASA colour film.
 
Can't wait
 
Why are we debating the DP1 and D800 here anyway? I just want more Dragon.
 
Fantastic still Tom, what iso you shot?
seem unreal crazy wowo
 
I'm super keen on seeing the very first MX vs Dragon nightshot for direct evaluation.
Same scene with two different sensors. Then I can extrapolate by looking at the difference how much better my stuff will look.
 
Ian Vertovec said:
Sorry if it looks a little too pushed for some people. Tom asked me to go for it to see what was really down there, just part of taking the Dragon out for a spin.

That's why it probably looks a little un-photographic. As David Mullen said, when you have that many stops to compress, you have to do some tricks to make something that will both show dynamic range and not be totally milky.

We just did some keys and windows on a 16bit log debayer. Nothing too fancy.
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Ian,

Excellent grade...! No need for apologizing. Many of us would love to accomplish what you always make to look so easy to do.
 
Nice image Tom!

Tom Lowe said:
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Dragon has the highest dynamic range of any camera I have used. When Jim and Jarred sent me the camera, my main goal was to push Dragon to the absolute edge of what it can do right now. This frame was shot here in Sri Lanka at 6K, 85fps on a Leica Summilux prime, and yes, that is the sun directly behind the elephant, between those two clouds. There were no bounces or lights used... this is 100% natural sunlight from behind the elephant.

Thank you to Ian at Light Iron for helping me with a quick grade. :cheers2:
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