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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

More HDRx...

This is extremely convincing!

The motion clip looks like its well lit without lighting equipment.
This will make movie-productions so much cheaper.

I hope the quality of the motion-picture content will not drop too much after RED releases it's next generation line of products as in: "terrible movie in perfect technical quality"
:-)
 
I was so exited when I saw this that I did something I rarely, rarely do.
I showed it to my friend/co-owner who is specialized in PR ..
His answer was - as I already guessed - "So, what's the big deal?"..
Then I reminded him of a certain footage we shot inside a skyscrapper
and the sky was blown.. He liked that shot in general, but really disliked the blown sky.
With epic HDRx™ we will not suffer that thing again - I told him.

Then (music in the background.. every things goes black except a spotlight lighting his face.. camera moves fast toward his face) HE GOT IT..
He UNDERSTOOD that HDRx™ is going to be a real game changer..

Jim and RED team, you've done something so great that even my friend
- who does not care about camera or lighting - was able to understand..
And this happens very very rarely.. Congratulations..
 
You had me at HDRx™™™.
If the Epic was a one K camera with no other feature than HDRx™ it would still be worth the asking price. So in reality all the other game changing features are free.
 
Jannard said:
I can't tell you how dark it was inside the barn. It was soooooo dark compared to what we were looking at outside. Peter and Mick were convinced that there was no way to hold the outside. Both have 25+ years of experience.

Jim
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The amount of time and work DP's and crews have expended over the years to try to come close to the natural look of that short clip is incalculable. What a liberating feature this is going to be!
 
Jannard said:
My goal was to build a worthy replacement for film. That meant with regards to resolution, dynamic range and "feel". "Social Network" has shown that the "resolution and feel" are there. As far as dynamic range... there is now nothing close.

Jim
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And you forgot to mention there is no judding on the vertical line during the pan, which is a goal less sexy then dynamic range, but very important if you want to compete to digital camera (and film) that have mechanical shutter and cost a fortune because of that.
 
Mind. Blown.

Can't stop watching the moving footage clip. Our eyes in real life would have to adjust between outside and inside. The camera doesn't have to. Hell, you can see the guy hesitate minutely as he transitions and has to let his eyes adjust to the first couple of steps.

And it's just natural motion. No weirdness I can see at all.

Ok, I see perhaps ONE small "artefact", if I may so bold as to call it that, and that is the corners of the frame where it appears the slight vignetting of the wide end of the lens is being somehow interpreted into a brighter value (due to the HDRx processing algorithm?) than what you'd visually expect to look natural, i.e. the vignetting being darker. But I fully acknowledge that we're seeing extreme beta samples and that everything can and will change before us mere mortals get to play with production units. No complaints at all, just an observation.

This is indeed game changing, that phrase that seems overused until you see a real life example with your own eyes.

Unless you've been to Las Vegas, it was hard to relate to the fire engine shot in terms of dynamic range. But this shot.... I think most everyone has at some point been inside looking outside into the hot midday sun with a camera and wishing they could capture it all. Well, here it is. From now on, we can. So yeah.... game changing.

Cheers for achieving the impossible Jim!

Paul
 
XiaoSu Han said:
Anyone else saw the noisy shadow areas? Codec? This might look good on the computer screen, but what about big projections?
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Relax. They've not released the camera for a reason. They're working on it. These are highly unprocessed technology previews. It may be codec, it may be the HDR algorithm that needs fine tuning, who knows... anywhere in the pipeline where you'd normally take care and today they didn't. Jim doesn't like noise - this resulted in the MX sensor. HDRx, which does its thing in the highlights isn't going to introduce much, if any, noise.
 
XiaoSu Han said:
Sure, but if 18 stops is including 5 stops of noise, then it's just 18 stops for the PR department and 13 stops for the DP.
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I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make. I've been in unlit barns on bright sunny days. Unless I'm grossly misjudging the scene, this example is more than my 5DmkII will comfortably handle in one shot. There is no exact measurement yet as to how much DR HDRx™ will produce, but even if the trade off is a bit of noise... then meh... but 5 stops of it... nah

The killer feature of HDRx is the dual-stream approach. Maybe the first public version won't have it, but a next version of RedCine-X or some 3rd party tool using the SDK will have a way to say - I want my HDRx stream applied to this area, but not here. Just like you do color on selective areas. So if the dark areas in the barn are really confounding the automatic modes, introducing noise, there will be way to solve your problem.
 
Took me a while to really get into this picture, but when I finally did… there is no way back :)

This is to me the first example that do justice to this technology, I was confident, as always, that Jim and is crew were onto something big… Now I KNOW.

Congrats,

Emmanuel
 
It will be awesome, and I'll use and like it, that's certain. But instead of writing how awesome this is in 20 pages I'd rather try to point out what's missing and maybe they can improve upon that, I somehow miss that here.

Isn't that what releasing test footage is about?
 
YES!!! This is what I'm talking about. Best. Test. Ever!!! That shot right there, that's all I need to see to choose Red. You just took, IMO, the biggest limitation of every camera out there, and completely obviated it. It looks like it holds more DR than even the lowest-contrast film stock. Nice work, Red team. Thank you SO MUCH for including it in the Scarlet. Wow. The Epic and Scarlet are gonna be such a pleasure to use it's not even funny.
 
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