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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Mac vs. Windows...

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been more than 20 years like Windows user Windows 8 makes me a Mac User. Right now typing on my MacBook Retina.

Windows 7 on Apple hardware is the best combination!
 
There are valid use cases where Mac, Windows, Linux, Android and iOS each win today.

But ultimately they are just gateways to the cloud.

Arguing about which desktop OS you use is getting less and less important every day. Meanwhile the cloud allows for awesome open, collaborative, creative stuff. It's also the only way I'm going to ever be able to afford to render my VFX at 4K stereo or megaray light fields or whatever... :)

My friend co-founded a brilliant cloud platform called Heroku in 2007. Their most basic service is free. They are friendly and open - and support open source and contribute research back to the community. Salesforce.com recently bought them for approx 1/4 of a billion. Just like Jim, instead of just chilling out, my friend continues to enthusiastically push the limits there - because it's the future and it's exciting and he has a great team. He's a fan of RED too BTW - always interested in what's going on over here.

To me, the future of cinema might just be a computational camera array running an open OS like Linux or even Android (it was originally written for cameras before it became a cellphone OS!) - and then you will process that data with a combination of local parallel processing and massive cloud power and make some very cool and creative stuff.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Jannard said:
I promise not to delete this one.

Jim
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Neither, they both are deficient Jim.

When I was designing my PC alternative, I was light years ahead, I am still ahead. Hanging around here is a hobby :-) . I`m actually negotiating to start my own professional development forums.


They both are based on outdated Jazzed up architectures Jim, because people were to lazy to reinvent the wheel, even though it was square. This C language and Unix architectural heritage has required massive complexities to prop up, and leaves it vunerable to technologies that can produce 10-100 times more performance for the complexity. Im involved witva pretty hardcore computer development group. Software is a mess too.

Mac maintains some decency over Windows, the pick, but Windows and Ubuntu require regular assessments to see if they have caught up.
 
1 x MacPro Tower, 2 x 27 " iMacs, latest one 32GB Ram 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 , 17" Macbook Pro, 15 " MacBook Pro Retina and a Macbook air plus a couple of older macs hanging around!

Hmmmm put me down as a Mac guy :-)
 
Since I switched to Apple (from Windows XP...) in 2009 can't go back. That being said, if the next Mac Pro is too expansive for me (the new iMac already kinda is for what it has under the hood and for my needs) for my home rig, I may turn back to PC and build a custom tower (or consider go on the Jack Sparrow side of the Force and build a hackintosh... In France, A LOT of post house are using hackintosh... Well, hidden in a room in the basement of the building but using it anyway !)

But at one of the company I work at, it will always be all Mac and I'm already prapring some stuff for the next Mac Pro (might put an Nvidia GTX Titan inside of it when it comes out with a nice Red Rocket-X... :p)
 
Like I've always said: Whatever gets the job done.

I use both fyi.
 
I use both. Mac for all things RED and Video Editing. PC for 3D (Motionbuilder/Softimage). I'm using bootcamp w parallels which makes it all pretty compact and convenient.
 
For a good 7-years it was MAC w/FCP, now it's Mac w/Premiere and I'm not looking back. The new retina MBP kicks ass though.
 
for me it depends on the next macpro. i would like to stay with the Mac OS. Cant they just licence their OS to RED and you guys build stations together with Boxx?
 
I switched back to pc late last year and I got more error messages in the first day than I had seen in 4 years using mac. I think that speaks to itself when it comes to user experience. Then it took 3 month to get everything to work even thoe most part was from the same manufacture. So its much easier to be a mac user. That said I have problem to invest more in a company that is not transparent on the direction the will continue in and the slow updates on hardware. If Apple changes this policy I could se my self getting new macpro in future.
 
Mac! Right now working on new MacBookPro. Thunderbolt is great... Waiting for a MacPro and a RocketX :-)
 
I switched to PC last year from a Mac Pro (having used that ever since I decided to film stuff).

I don't think there's a case for one over the other - Its like trying to decided RedVolts over Red Bricks - they serve different purposes.
I love editing on the PC, but (and god knows why) I prefer to do all of my sound on a Mac. Both sit well side by side in a workflow.

But gun to my head if I could only use one? Easily PC. In a few years time my Mac Pro will become a paperweight, whereas I've just ordered the Titan for my PC. PC is upgradable and modular.. sounds familiar, no?
 
Tobias Straka said:
Mac. 2 reasons:

- I much prefer Mac's OS to Windows.
- ProRes. 90% of all the work I do sooner or later ends up in ProRes. As long as there is no easy way to work with ProRes on a PC, the market around here will not accept PCs as their post workstations (easy = no special app needed, integrated in the NLE). Even then, I'm not sure all the fancy agency people would like to switch. They do like their nicely designed Macbooks...

That said, I envy all the windows guys for all the options they have hardware-wise. Let's just hope Apple steps up their game.
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DNXHD and proress is not much of a difference only that one means trouble on one of the platforms... so if you swap to DNXhd you do not need to run on mac...

Even though I am a Mac user more than a pc user I see windows moving forward and I see Apple just not taking care of their professional users. I do not understand why, any kid today can configure a fat ass workstation, but apple seams to think that those kind of computers are not needed. I think they are completely wrong they should make a big tower that just was better than all the rest, and make sure osx was smooth on it. That way they would set the standard for heavy load workstations. Now they got all the people from SGI over and then they start making apps and stuff.. quite frustration I think.. I want to get back to the craylinked Onyx2 kind of computer days but with todays speed.

So if we hd to pic I would like a RED computer that was certified to run OSX. tripple redrocketX built in card reader etc...
 
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