DaVinci Resolve 8 released and available

[Eric Santiago]

Eric, RCX gives me a warning about the Rocket being in a 4x slot but it still worked. I went to the DeckLink card as the Rocket only provides an SDI image through RCX, not Resolve. I don't have a BOB, does that change things? I'd love to get a slot back. And then there's the whole goofy "you can't get an image in Premier via the BM card unless your project is set to the BM HD Preset" Lame.

I currently just have my 17" Field monitor hooked up, but if this workflow / station prove to be ideal for me then I'll get the bigger Flanders too.

Thanks for the info Chris I guess Resolve 8 is out. Checking BM site and noticed the Decklink HD as well. You placed yours in the 4 slot, isnt the Decklink a two slot card? Im looking at it from their website of course. itll take some time for me to get Resolve 8 going. I have the basics like MC Color and Quadoro 4000. however the BM website states that the Quadro 4800 works best (not mentioning the 4000?)? I have one of those handy too.

 

[Chris Parker]

Does Resolve export ALE files?

Looking for a way to get the CDL information into the AVID bins' metadata. How are you doing this Bruce?

 

[Christopher Barrett]

I called tech support before I bought everything. The tech actually had the 4000's in his system (multiple via expansion chassis) and others here have mentioned using 4000's in their systems so I figured it was good enough for me. The card has ports out for HDMI which don't take up an extra slot, just a tab in back (like the Rocket's BNC ports). I just didn't install those. I recommend calling them if you have any serious quandaries. They were quite helpful!

 

[Eric Santiago]

I called tech support before I bought everything. The tech actually had the 4000's in his system (multiple via expansion chassis) and others here have mentioned using 4000's in their systems so I figured it was good enough for me. The card has ports out for HDMI which don't take up an extra slot, just a tab in back (like the Rocket's BNC ports). I just didn't install those. I recommend calling them if you have any serious quandaries. They were quite helpful!

THanks Chris! First buy Resolve 8

 

[jake blackstone]

As most boxes I have seen are over $100K and dont have even a 10th of the grading capabilities of your system

Boxes like what?

 

[jimhare]

I have an ATI 5770, would that work? If I add a Quadro 4000/4800 would it drive my HDMI monitor with Resolve? I don't have HD-SDI monitoring and would rather not get a Decklink if it's not required.

It's been a bit difficult to get straight answers about altering the config and what will and will not work. I definitely want to keep using the Rocket and am monitoring HDMI only. Any advice?

Here's what I've done... left the ATI 5870 in Slot 1 for GUI, Quadro 4000 in Slot 2 for Resolve (no monitors attached), Rocket moved to Slot 3 (x4... drag but still functions) and a Decklink HD Extreme 3d in Slot 4 going out to my Flanders.

 

[Adam Eden]

Boxes like what?

Clipster

 

[Adam Eden]

I have an ATI 5770, would that work? If I add a Quadro 4000/4800 would it drive my HDMI monitor with Resolve? I don't have HD-SDI monitoring and would rather not get a Decklink if it's not required.

It's been a bit difficult to get straight answers about altering the config and what will and will not work. I definitely want to keep using the Rocket and am monitoring HDMI only. Any advice?

Jim that is the problem. I can't get straight answers from most dealers in Sydney. Emiliho from Future Reality seems to be the best so far, but the serious configs all have expansion chassis.

If you find a good dealer/support guy please share as I haven't bought the system yet till I do.

 

[Christopher Barrett]

What's kind of a drag with Resolve is it doesn't work with dual system monitors. You can't just pull the image viewer to a separate monitor like you can in RCX, FCP, PP etc... The full size viewer is a tab that you have to toggle back and forth with imaging controls. It really kind of demands DeckLink SDI viewing. This is how most high end configurations are built and I think the Resolve engineers feel that you should not be grading on a system monitor. They're kind of right about that... You can't get a 10 bit image on a Mac yet, for example, but you do get 10 bit through the DL Card.

Version 8 may work with ATI cards now, but I haven't really investigated this since you should be dedicating a Graphics card (with no monitor attached) to it anyway. Bottom line... you really need to be able to spend 8k to 10k on additional hardware to make Resolve work right. What's really a drag is I'm now out of PCI slots, have no eSATA and my SSD Module and Mags just arrived!

I hope that helps a little...

CB

 

[jimhare]

Will do Adam. Seems like Christopher's config is pretty close to what I want to do so am hoping to get some good news.

Maybe Peter Chamberlain can chime in on this?

 

[Steve Sherrick]

Jim that is the problem. I can't get straight answers from most dealers in Sydney. Emiliho from Future Reality seems to be the best so far, but the serious configs all have expansion chassis.

If you find a good dealer/support guy please share as I haven't bought the system yet till I do.

I think an expansion chassis for the graphics cards is inevitable as it's difficult to configure a system with RR, I/O, and a RAID controller. Cubix and others.

 

[jimhare]

Thanks Christopher, much appreciated.

There's a strange duality going on here. On one hand there is the hard line of "need to spend $10k to make it work" and on the other hand we see it working on iMacs and MBPs with no additional components. I'm a bit confused as to where the reality is.

For example, if I were happy to compromise on full realtime performance and do not use a calibrated HD-SDI monitor (HDMI only), what are my options?

 

[Scott Crawley]

Thanks Christopher, much appreciated.

There's a strange duality going on here. On one hand there is the hard line of "need to spend $10k to make it work" and on the other hand we see it working on iMacs and MBPs with no additional components. I'm a bit confused as to where the reality is.

For example, if I were happy to compromise on full realtime performance and do not use a calibrated HD-SDI monitor (HDMI only), what are my options?

Oh Jim, would you really cosider that? I don't know if I would run DaVinci if I couldn't have 100% confidence in the output. To me, HDMI monitoring with scopes is an 85% solution at best. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[jake blackstone]

Clipster

Since when Clipster become a grading solution? You really need to do your homework before posting. Nevertheless, since you did say "boxes", here is your second chance to come up with a better answer

 

[jake blackstone]

There is no compelling reason to use RR with Resolve. At least for me. With new 12 Proc Mac system you can do 1/2 debayer in real time. It's all a matter of managing expectations. If all you want is 4-6 nodes of grade at 1/2 debayer, ATI or nVidia GUI card, with second 4000 GPU card, BM decklink and last slot free for something like RAID card, you're all set. If you need more nodes or you'd like to take advantage of new NR, then you need more hoarse power. You still have a free slot for a seconf 4000 GPU or, yes, RR. If you need still more power and options, then you must use the expansion chassis. Pretty simple really. I have GT120, GTX 285, Decklink HD Extreme and Fiber card and I'm pretty much set...

 

[Adam Eden]

Since when Clipster become a grading solution? You really need to do your homework before posting. Nevertheless, since you did say "boxes", here is your second chance to come up with a better answer

Who do you think you are buddy? I have spent 2 months on looking at finishing solutions that include grading r3d and you are calling me out? It seems that you think your shit don't stink buddy.

Chode!

 

[Steve Sherrick]

Since when Clipster become a grading solution? You really need to do your homework before posting. Nevertheless, since you did say "boxes", here is your second chance to come up with a better answer

It's certainly capable of grading, but not sure how often it's used that way. I always thought it was more of a conform/DI tool, with very good R3D support. Am I incorrect with that assessment?

 

[Christopher Barrett]

Thanks Christopher, much appreciated.

There's a strange duality going on here. On one hand there is the hard line of "need to spend $10k to make it work" and on the other hand we see it working on iMacs and MBPs with no additional components. I'm a bit confused as to where the reality is.

For example, if I were happy to compromise on full realtime performance and do not use a calibrated HD-SDI monitor (HDMI only), what are my options?

Well... there's always a duality between what "can" be done and what actually works well in a production environment, yeah? I think you could probably install Resolve on a MBP and grade a ProRes edit if you're working in HD. I spend a lot of time in hotel rooms and would love a portable post system but in all honestly, I feel my tower is even kind of restrictive and wish I had an expansion chassis for full blown 4k workflow. I mean, you can always want bigger and better, right?

 

[jimhare]

Absolutely. Grading doesn't always mean preparing calibrated materials for broadcast/feature film. For me it's more about matching cameras to each other, secondaries, stabilization, 3D, giving an overall look etc.

At the moment I bring an EDL back into RCX and work my original R3Ds. I have my Wave, Red Rocket, Sony HDMI monitor that I'm happy with, and output my work without incident.

My goal is to replace RCX with DaVinci to achieve more control. Not looking to set up a calibrated grading suite for broadcast/features.

If I get to that in the future then great, but for the moment it's just a nicety on the side, not a primary function. If the answer is "can't do it" then I'll stick with RCX. If the answer is "do it like this but expect this" then that's great.

Oh Jim, would you really cosider that? I don't know if I would run DaVinci if I couldn't have 100% confidence in the output. To me, HDMI monitoring with scopes is an 85% solution at best. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[jimhare]

Indeed. I guess the answer is for me to wait for the free version and gauge the performance for myself as there don't appear to be straight answers.

Well... there's always a duality between what "can" be done and what actually works well in a production environment, yeah? I think you could probably install Resolve on a MBP and grade a ProRes edit if you're working in HD. I spend a lot of time in hotel rooms and would love a portable post system but in all honestly, I feel my tower is even kind of restrictive and wish I had an expansion chassis for full blown 4k workflow. I mean, you can always want bigger and better, right?