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So Kurt/John: how about an update on the shipping? You guys were supposed to be building the units all weekend. Have you started shipping? Where are you at in fulfilling the orders? Its getting very tight for me.

Also, I will be in LA for 18 hours next week. Flying in to pickup some hi hi rollers. Can I swing by to VF and just pick mine up in person?

cheers
 
Stephen let me trell you a couple of things.
First of all Iam not trying to tell you to change your mind.Your money your choice.
Second I believe the red edition set up is for 44 lbs if Iam not mistaken this is camera capacity, at least thats what most manufacturers mean when they talk about their arms capacity.If that is the case you ve got at least around 6-9 lbs to spare.
Yoyr coments about mass arent that accurate.it doesnt work exactly that way.
dont include the monitor on the weight cause this is under the CG of your gimbal, on this special mount the rig has but still under so it compansates for the lower rig.
Last the view factor ff looks like its over all lighter than other ff, do not forget that even if the motor is a bit heavier, the reciever is extremently light and these both mount on the top part of your rig just like any other ff.So you knew this from the beginning.
if the birger is better for your case? this is another story.
I suggest you look at your weight spread again I believe your rig can easily take the load.And get some info about how mass works and how to spread the loads around your rig so you can get static and dynamic balance.that can cause the horizon errors you are describing, and not the rest.The best you get out of it you get it only by experience.
thats my 2 cents and good luck.
Constantine
www.the-running-rig.com
 
Hi there, Constantine. . .

Actually the 44 pounds for the RED Edition Actioncam is total rig capacity, not the camera capacity. Also, I don't like the position of the monitor as designed, so I've moved it above the gimbel where these old eyes can actually see it. Finally, I'm convinced that the Birger will fit my needs better for the foreseeable future. It's lighter in weight, has lenses that turn the right way around, and the lenses are, on average a wee bit faster than the Nikons. I'll keep a few Nikons and use them with the Nikon-to-Canon adapter and a manual follow focus, but it's just a better way for me to go. And besides, I'll still be using the Impero to run it with.

:-)

Stephen
 
Stephen where you have mounted your monitor will be very hard to see in specific angles of panning andtilting the camera.
I agree that its and odd possition but what you should do is make a bracket and mount it lower where about most steadicams have their monitors.You can use the vertical rods for that.The bigest mistake is to have only the battery set up and maybe the red ram on your lower rig , thats why you get bad control and defenatly no dynamic balance of the rig. If you can get a longer cable for your red monitor, I can help you out getting the right spread setting up components on your sled so you get the best of the contorl.That might include some mods but believe me that are minnor and very cheap.They will do a lot of difference though.the red edition is a strange rig
Constantine
www.the-running-rig.com
 
Well, i emailed VF about updating my order and adding the DTAP cable. They replied straight away. I know some people are not getting replies to their emails but it looks as though they are getting them.
Take a pill, sit back and wait...some more. And if your planning shoots around getting this FF you are well...:head_explode:
 
Sorry if this is discussed before, but could you give me a short explanation (or link) whats all about this DTAP cable? Do we need this with Inclino and have to buy it?
Thank you,
Marc
 
Hi Marc,

You must definetly get the Dtap cable in order to power the unit in a proper way.

Emmanuel
 
That's correct. From my understanding, the Inclino originally was supposed to be able to be powered directly off the RED and hence the option of buying a 'RED power cable' on their site. Now, after the units are up and running they have found the units don't perform near their best from the RED power alone and perform at their best from the DTAP power supply on the cradle and also directly on some brands of battery. It will also mean the option of using the FF on other cameras is available as DTAP is commonly around or easily converted to other power connectors (like XLR).
VF have enabled the Inclino to run form the RED if you wish to but the performance is down and so it is highly recommended to get the DTAP power. I do kinda believe we should have been offered a discount at least as it was going to be able to be run from RED but heh, these things happen. I have just paid for the cable and i suggest you do too.

Oh, and if you would like the Impero to be able to control the record start/stop function etc you still need the RED cable through the GPIO to do this.
 
Emmanuel, Edgar,

thank you for the response!

Edgar, you mean I need a cable from Inclino to the cam to enable start stop?

Cheers,

Marc
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone mention recently that to solve the power draw issue Viewfactor would throw in a DTAP cable with each package sold?

Cheers,

Paul
 
Paul Leeming said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone mention recently that to solve the power draw issue Viewfactor would throw in a DTAP cable with each package sold?

Cheers,

Paul
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Ummm, i hadn't heard that one. I just paid for one because i didn't think they were. It would be great if anyone at VF can confirm this.
 
I know people are annoyed by that it's taken long for them to get it out. But the fact that RED cameras doesn't stay true to it's specs? Should that be their fault? If they decide to throw in the cables for free I think it's time for us to be really grateful and say a BIG thank you.
 
weirdcrew said:
I know people are annoyed by that it's taken long for them to get it out. But the fact that RED cameras doesn't stay true to it's specs? Should that be their fault? If they decide to throw in the cables for free I think it's time for us to be really grateful and say a BIG thank you.
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I am not sure Red is under performing their GIPO spec. I have two Reds, both early and late versions #115 and #3090. Both bodies run my big zooms with Heden motors interchangeably via the GIPO all day long. I have metered the draw it is 0.9 amps at full throttle "Zap". Neither one has ever hickuped from the current draw! and I have probably clocked 1000+ hours of production shooting with the zooms in the last year+.

But, i can see how a big beefy motor & receiver could exceed 1.5 amps when moved quickly or on a tight lens.
 
I just hope they send a mail before shipping and tell us what´s in the package. I just want to be sure its working properly right away and not have to wait again because of missing cables.
Marc
 
EMAIL them, i did and they responded straight away. If you have an order you should have your order list. If there is not a DTAP cable there you better order it otherwise get ready for it to arrive and not be able to use it properley. If they provide one extra, great, it's a spare...or change the DTAP end to an XLR or a myriad of others.
 
Stephen Webb said:
Or cancel your Red Cable order and replace it with the DTAP instead.
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No, no, you need to get both… one to power the unit , the other to allow the impero to REC start the camera.

Emmanuel
 
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