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V-mount Battery Chart

Trevor Meier

Trevor Meier

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For those of you looking for what v-mount batteries might be a good fit for your new Raven or Scarlet-W with the Red v-mount expander, here's a chart of what will fit and what won't along with pricing and size/weight information. To the right are some of my own calculations for the high-altitude work I do, where every ounce and cubic centimetre matters.

Here's a link to the Google spreadsheet if you want to copy / edit / suggest changes.
 
Phil Holland said:
What constitutes "too heavy"?
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Phil, I think I want the Anton Bauer bricks that you were using in the Forged piece...what do you think is optimal? 90w/h?
 
"Too heavy" is my personal rating—none of these batteries exceed the V-mount spec AFAIK. I'm looking for maximum density & mass efficiency per watt-hour (and per dollar, though that's less important) because I have to schlep these batteries on my back up mountains. Every ounce counts.
 
Feel free to add them Blair. I think I might've skipped adding them because aren't they the same size as the GlobeMediaPro batteries? (which don't fit the Red v-mount expander)
 
I really feel PAG link batteries are the stand out batteries at the min... and think they fit?

Linking is fantastic

Weight to capcity is best in class

The micro chargers are really really useful

Stackable charging is amazing

the company is a delight to deal with

I am slightly prejudiced as they are a Uk company..
 
Trevor Meier said:
"Too heavy" is my personal rating—none of these batteries exceed the V-mount spec AFAIK. I'm looking for maximum density & mass efficiency per watt-hour (and per dollar, though that's less important) because I have to schlep these batteries on my back up mountains. Every ounce counts.
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Then lipos is best no?
 
Scot Yount said:
Phil, I think I want the Anton Bauer bricks that you were using in the Forged piece...what do you think is optimal? 90w/h?
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I'm using the 150Wh ones. For travel I'm using REDVOLT XLs. Though the new slim REDVOLT-V thing has grabbed my interest.
 
Trevor Meier said:
For those of you looking for what v-mount batteries might be a good fit for your new Raven or Scarlet-W with the Red v-mount expander, here's a chart of what will fit and what won't along with pricing and size/weight information. To the right are some of my own calculations for the high-altitude work I do, where every ounce and cubic centimetre matters.

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Here's a link to the Google spreadsheet if you want to copy / edit / suggest changes.
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This is great! Thanks for doing all this work. This is such a complicated issue it's nice to get it sorted out a little. Do you know which of these transmit power data to the RED UI? Can any V-Mount batt use any V-mount charger? How do you like the Bebob batts? They're kind of ugly but otherwise look like a good choice.
 
Bebob's arrive today. I'll let you know how it goes.

I didn't go into charger compatibility. A lack of good v-mount travel chargers is definitely an issue. Most of the travel chargers out there will only trickle-charge one battery at a time. I wish someone would come out with a fast-charging dual-sided v-mount plate that can connect to a single power supply and quickly charge both batteries. It would be such a broadly useful thing for on the road and up in the mountains, especially if it had DC-input for using solar and other power sources.

As far as I understand, outside of the Sony's, most chargers will work with most brands of battery but this is not something I've tested or researched deeply.
 
Trevor Meier said:
Bebob's arrive today. I'll let you know how it goes.

I didn't go into charger compatibility. A lack of good v-mount travel chargers is definitely an issue. Most of the travel chargers out there will only trickle-charge one battery at a time. I wish someone would come out with a fast-charging dual-sided v-mount plate that can connect to a single power supply and quickly charge both batteries. It would be such a broadly useful thing for on the road and up in the mountains, especially if it had DC-input for using solar and other power sources.

As far as I understand, outside of the Sony's, most chargers will work with most brands of battery but this is not something I've tested or researched deeply.
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Oh man. As someone who has carried a DSMC 1 Body with 3+ AB batteries up to several 14,000ft peaks...I so appreciate this. I'm currently evaluating the DSMC 2 route for another project this year and power is obviously a huge issue, even though the weight reduction in the body basically "pays" for a battery. I share all of your concerns, so any info you have on feasibility here is greatly appreciated.
 
Yeah Joe - will keep you posted. For guys like us I really wish power consumption would become more manageable in the future. Red's perfect for the situations we run into except for being so power hungry (and maybe body size and an ND option... but those aren't deal-breakers compared to power).
 
Trevor Meier said:
Yeah Joe - will keep you posted. For guys like us I really wish power consumption would become more manageable in the future. Red's perfect for the situations we run into except for being so power hungry (and maybe body size and an ND option... but those aren't deal-breakers compared to power).
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Oh my God yes. I mean, it's not RED's fault -- Alexa's the same way. But it's crazy to me that a C300 can run for 3 hours on the same battery that powers a RED for half an hour. I'd be curious to hear the RED engineers speak to that. I expect there's some kind of log curve involving bandwidth, DR and power draw. At any rate, if they could improve power management even a little, it would be killer.

I was kind of excited about the Weapon being lighter until I realized I needed the Redvolt expander to get all the functionality I came to know and love in my Epic (having a Redvolt in the handle for hot swaps, and powered audio inputs), so it's only maybe a pound lighter after that. But weight isn't such a big deal. Internal ND, OTOH, would be soooooooo nice! It's like self-driving cars. You think you don't need one until you've got one, and then you can't imagine how you could possibly ever go back.*

*I'm imagining here, as I don't have a Tesla. But at least one guy here does...
 
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