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Titanium...

Brook Willard said:
I find it hilarious that the titanium mount is making people upset. When we're complaining about RED making too many lens mounts... something's gone right.
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Indeed. It's like all the ridiculous complaints when the big DSMC announcement was made. People were whining because we had more options. Bizzare.
 
Titanium is way, way tougher and therefore far more expensive to machine than aluminum. Bits wear out quickly (expensive) which screws up tolerances (expensive) which requires changing bits (expensive) therefore slowing down the automation (expensive), etc.

In contrast, Aluminum is so comparably soft relative to the machining cutting bits that you can set up the machine before you go home at night and come back the next morning with a pile of finished mounts waiting in the mill.

Stainless is pretty ridiculous too actually.

That said, RED is using a high grade form of aluminum for their RED One mounts -- there was a large discussion about it in the past on that subject when we first realized we'd be getting aluminum rather than stainless mounts on the camera.

I've got some friends at one rental house that have lots and lots of problems with ACs poorly mounting their heavy lenses, to the extent that the lens mounts are having to be fixed constantly. The existing RED One mount on the other hand is holding up pretty well. I suspect I'll stay with aluminum for the camera I buy.
 
Joseph Hutson said:
Just out of curiosity, you don't happen to know what the cost is for the aluminum casing for the Fixed Brain's shell is, do you? I was gonna see how much the multiplication of 18x would make it out to be. :laugh:
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Just to clarify, that 18x is only the begining of the equation:

Jarred Land said:
Yes, Raw Titanium costs 18x more than aluminum, and Machining Titanium is much more difficult.. its slower to cut and goes through a ton of bits. ...
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100% agreed Mark
 
Jeff Flindt said:
Titanium Mounts!! Titanium brains as a option? Thinks how rugged and light that would be!!!! Jeffflindt.com
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Soryy, did I miss this?
Are Titanium brains an option?
Would be cool if they were, even if only in the distant future.
After Epic x and maybe for FF35
I agree with Jeff, the lighter the better, as an option, when money is there.
 
Michael Moreno said:
Soryy, did I miss this?
Are Titanium brains an option?
Would be cool if they were, even if only in the distant future.
After Epic x and maybe for FF35
I agree with Jeff, the lighter the better, as an option, when money is there.
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I believe they were anounced as being an option. :yesnod:




Jono
 
Titanium reacts to other compounds easily. It might be okay for a lens mount, but I would hesitate in using it as a chassis material. Regardless of the practicalities of cost in manufacturing, Titanium requires maintenance. It can't come into contact with ordinary tap water, so you have to clean it using distilled water or you get surface pitting. Try keeping such contaminants off the body itself in normal use. I'd like to see a solid carbon body.
 
Brook Willard said:
I find it hilarious that the titanium mount is making people upset. When we're complaining about RED making too many lens mounts... something's gone right.
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I'm certainly not upset, and am very happy about Canon, Nikon, PL and other mounts. Maybe I should mention, we had a problem with our PL aluminium mount on our Red One's back focus being off on a recent shoot. I just wish Red made stainless steel mounts the standard on their new cameras.

Cheers,
Damien
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
I am reminded of the Ti "R" I got when I first reserved my RED ONE.. Talk about coming full circle.

Jay
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Thanks Jay

for such an excellent remind.

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Titanium "R#694" shot on R1-MX #694 with Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 @ f/7.0, ISO 800, shutter 1/50, AWB, no filters.

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Titanium "R#694" shot on R1-MX #694 with Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 @ f/7.0, ISO 800, shutter 1/50, AWB, no filters.

titanium_R694_03.jpg

Titanium "R#694" shot on R1-MX #694 with Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 @ f/7.0, ISO 800, shutter 1/50, AWB, no filters.
 
Cool! Like the titanium a lot. If it breaks, the lens mount will take the damage. Now we need lenses with titanium mount!
 
STAGE 2: Keep your RED ONE and get EPIC-X Stage 2 package ( RESERVATIONS CLOSED - Awaiting completion of Stage 1 )

Cameras only eligible if invoiced by RED or having completed the official RED ownership transfer process on or before October 29, 2009.
Keep your RED ONE and serial number is executed. "Executed" means not eligible for any other trade-in offers/credits.
Cameras with voided warranties are not eligible for ANY trade-in offers/credits.
Reservation period over. Payment for Stage 2 deposits due by June 1, 2010. Deposit is $5000 per camera executed for Stage 2.
Cost is $28,000 less $8500 to keep your RED ONE. Net price of $19,500 and comes with: 1x S35 MYSTERIUM-X brain with PL mount, 1x 5" LCD, 1x REDMOTE, 1x Side CF Module, 1x Module Adaptor, 1x Base I/O Module, 1x Pro Battery Module, 2x REDVOLT standard batteries, and 1x travel charger. NOTE: Upgrades available for select monitoring options and modules. i.e 1x Base I/O Module can be upgraded to PRO I/O Module by paying price difference. Details as we get closer.
RED ONE M-X Upgrade price of $4500 (normally $5750).
You must take delivery within 30 days from notification that your order is ready for delivery. Notification order based on R1 Delivery date
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Should we assume that the Epic X comes with an aluminum mount? Sorry if this was made clear earlier.
 
I want the entire camera made of play-dough...

Then I can truely make it whatever I want...

Except, it should come with a "Ti" mount.. This will keep people from giving me shit.

Jay
 
All jokes Aside..

I believe that every tool has its place, so before taking delivery of my EPIC-X I will be sure to discuss with RED my choices, as I trust their advise in what Mount should I choose to go with based on the use that the camera will see, and I Strongly suggest every one else to do the same, and not to just get the Titanium to look cool, and or not get the Titanium because it costs more, and then find out the HARD way that you should have gotten the Titanium mount do to the extremes of were your camera was meant to go, and you skipped to save money and now have a damaged Aluminum mount and are with no camera for your work as the camera is at Red for repair, loosing you Income, just MO.
 
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