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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

The Update Thread

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Any raven pocket Brent?
 
When you went from Scarlet Dragon to the Scarlet W Upgrade Package previously, you got to keep your old Scarlet Dragon and you got the accessories in the bundle, along with the new S-W. Now you forfeit the accessories for the package deal (which I've read so far) and you have to turn in the Scarlet Dragon as well if going for the Epic W? Meaning you don't get to keep it? Just trying to get it straight. Sorry if this as already been answered.
 
Brent@RED said:
Very unfair? You are getting an opportunity to get a $30K camera for $20K and you are being treated unfairly? Over, what, a savings of less than $1000 on an accessory bundle?

Kurtis, methinks looking at the glass half full, instead of half empty, here would be a good idea.

This gives me the perfect excuse to close my browser for the night...
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Nothing makes my stomach turn like seeing entitled words like "unfair" tossed around. My very young children say that sometimes, irks me to no end. Only the word "deserve" when used in conjunction with "l" bums me out more. Brent, as a long time business owner with a generous heart, I learned a long time ago, no good deed goes unpunished. From a grateful (soon to be first time RED owner) thank you RED for your generosity. Browsing these forums & seeing you guys responding & communicating with folks has created a new fan in me. I anticipate you have a new life-long customer in me. Cheers!
 
Ok, since same thing being asked over and over to me via PM....

Josh Becker said:
I can only assume they mean the Scarlet Dragon package (which was an extra $2500 off, making the total savings closer to $3000). Which, as someone who has never owned a RED, I can see why they'd want a little something extra over the deal I'm getting as a newbie.

Anyway, I'm totally cool losing the bundle. Allows me to streamline my accessories.

Oh, and Brent, will there be details about priority or timestamp stuff? I'm curious where those of us with no camera (Dec 10th order) fall in line. I understand that lots of people with varying degrees of camera investment are all hoping to have priority, so it's probably a nightmare to plan.
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Josh, they can keep their SCARLET DRAGON owner SCARLET-W package. They are not getting “screwed” out of that deal they signed up. However, come Oct 11, that offer will cease to exist. So, if you like it, sign up now.

"Newbies" don't have that path...

Abe Espinoza said:
Brent, I'm a Scarlet Dragon owner that hasn't yet placed my deposit down for the special priced Scarlet Dragom-to-Scarlet-W package upgrade. If I were to put down my deposit for the Scarlet-W bundle before Oct.11, would it be honored? (I really hope so).
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Exactly.
 
unfair unfair :cryin:. Then keep your scarlet-w and the package accessories and don't upgrade for the $10k discount if that doesn't seem fair to you. Red is so damn generous right now and all this complaining makes me sick.
 
I'd like clarification on a current situation: I plan to purchase the upgrade for Epic-W immediately (from Epic Dragon). However, because my camera and I are booked on several jobs over the next 2 months, I don't have the availability to trade in until approximately December. If I pay in full and get 'in line' early enough can I hold it at RED until I'm ready to upgrade and not wait in line later?

Example - I am #10 in line when the purchasing button is activated on the website and there's a body available to me. Will that body be allocated to me and held at Red even if all the other ones fly off the shelves? Say in Dec when I'm ready to trade there are 100 people in line waiting for bodies to be made, I can just send old body in and get the new one w/o having to get back in line after person #100?
 
Arthur Woo said:
I'd like clarification on a current situation: I plan to purchase the upgrade for Epic-W immediately (from Epic Dragon). However, because my camera and I are booked on several jobs over the next 2 months, I don't have the availability to trade in until approximately December. If I pay in full and get 'in line' early enough can I hold it at RED until I'm ready to upgrade and not wait in line later?

Example - I am #10 in line when the purchasing button is activated on the website and there's a body available to me. Will that body be allocated to me and held at Red even if all the other ones fly off the shelves? Say in Dec when I'm ready to trade there are 100 people in line waiting for bodies to be made, I can just send old body in and get the new one w/o having to get back in line after person #100?
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You have a certain period of time to send in your camera after you are notified that a camera is allocated to you. If you cannot execute within that window, then your allocated camera rolls to the next person in line. Once you are ready to send in your camera, you will be worked into the next delivery batch. Which, once you are ready, it should be relatively quick to work you back in....

Otherwise, we could be sitting on a ton of inventory while we wait on you, which could be a long time until you are ready. Which makes no sense for RED or for those in line waiting after you.
 
Scarlet dragon owners options?
Trade in a roughly 10K$ camera for a 10K$ discount on EW brain
Get 2500$ off Scarlet-W package. Keep Scarlet-D

What am I missing?

Thank you in advance. Looking for basic info.
 
Brent@RED said:
Very unfair? You are getting an opportunity to get a $30K camera for $20K and you are being treated unfairly? Over, what, a savings of less than $1000 on an accessory bundle?

Kurtis, methinks looking at the glass half full, instead of half empty, here would be a good idea.

This gives me the perfect excuse to close my browser for the night...
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Easy there Brent, the last thing I am is someone who isn't grateful for this opportunity. I absolutely look at this offer as an opportunity of a lifetime, and the glass is full no matter if I choose to upgrade or not because either way, I'll be the proud owner of a RED. I've also been one of the few that hasn't cried over the long wait. I've had the mindset of... It'll arrive when it arrives and until then I have something to look forward to.
On a side note, I didn't even bring this topic up, I was replying to someone else whom I happened to agree with. Maybe you took what I was saying wrong, maybe you didn't. Its just my opinion that if someone ordered a SW bundle, that it should carry over to the EW for ONE reason only... That reason being, customers who have received their SW bundles are allowed to take advantage of this deal and get all the benefits of the bundle, but the rest of us don't get the same benefits. That's all I was saying, no hidden meanings or agenda.
Well... guess it's time to close my browser for the night as well ;)
 
J Obertone said:
Scarlet dragon owners options?
Trade in a roughly 10K$ camera for a 10K$ discount on EW brain
Get 2500$ off Scarlet-W package. Keep Scarlet-D

What am I missing?

Thank you in advance. Looking for basic info.
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I assume they won't require Scarlet-D owners to send in their camera for the Epic-W upgrade, unless they are charging less than $20k (Scarlet-W price + $10k), since you could just make a Scarlet-W order right now and upgrade it, no current camera required. No trade-in required.
 
Forgive me if its been said already in this massively long thread - but any idea of what the DSMC 1 options might be? Not to get too greedy, especially since I already have my cameras and many people haven't gotten their cams at all yet ---- but I've got some Scarlet MXs sitting around that i'd be tempted to upgrade :-)
 
couple of us on the Scarlet-w Facebook group are joking around that the SW queue is just going to get longer.

* WHAT IF * everyone who already decided to upgrade on the 11th to the EPIC W changes their minds last minute and just gets a 2nd Scarlet-W instead. lol hahaha just kidding but for real tho
 
Tim Daust said:
couple of us on the Scarlet-w Facebook group are joking around that the SW queue is just going to get longer.

* WHAT IF * everyone who already decided to upgrade on the 11th to the EPIC W changes their minds last minute and just gets a 2nd Scarlet-W instead. lol hahaha just kidding but for real tho
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Now that peeps have gone through the stretching exercise to free up the extra $10k for the Epic-W... it would be so easy to just put that down for a 2nd Scarlet and have two cameras.

Sorry Jarred. Sorry Brent. But the Scarlet-W line may just get a little bit longer. haha
 
Can anyone that owns/has used a Helium tell us how it compares to Dragon in terms of low light? It's definitely what I'm most excited about Epic-W
 
Brent@RED said:
Don’t confuse sensor name with camera name : )

With WEAPON HELIUM, you get mount, media bay, and SIDEKICK. With EPIC-W HELIUM, no SIDEKICK or mount.
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The naming was definitely confusing at first but I think I've got the whole lineup down now. Thanks! Really looking forward to Weapon Helium!!
 
James Johnson said:
Can anyone that owns/has used a Helium tell us how it compares to Dragon in terms of low light? It's definitely what I'm most excited about Epic-W
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According to Mark Toia:

"Put it this way: shooting at 1600 - 2500 ASA is like as clean as 800 in 6K. Most of my tests so far have been low light at 3200 and upwards in mixed lighting. I'm trying to find the weak point."
 
Larry McKee said:
According to Mark Toia:

"Put it this way: shooting at 1600 - 2500 ASA is like as clean as 800 in 6K. Most of my tests so far have been low light at 3200 and upwards in mixed lighting. I'm trying to find the weak point."
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Mark is coming from DSMC1. As such his comparison is skipping a generation, which may equate to a far greater increase in perceived improvement. I'm looking forward to (hopefully) a ton of direct comparisons in the upcoming week or so.
 
Hi Brent, since you mentioned S-W to weapon helium was possible, is it safe to assume that it'll be north of $25k? Seeing as how weapon MG to weapon helium is $15k. Thanks for taking the time to clear things up. Also, since I have my s-w already, so I just send it in without a mount when upgrading to epic-w? It didn't come with the plate so I wouldn't be able to close it up if I kept the mount. Cheers
 
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