Scarlet...

[Stuart English]

Slow Motion

Slow Motion

If it is 120fps with 150fps burst that would be nice to match with my PMW-500.

Which supports 1 - 60 fps 720p and 1- 30 fps 1080p correct ?

 

[Brandon J.F.]

And, hell if s16 is good enough for black swan...

...and The Wrestler.

Some of Black Swan was shot on DSLRs:

"We used a Canon 7D or 1D Mark IV for all the subway scenes; I could just carry a 7D and shoot on the subway all day with a very small crew. I did some tests with my wife beforehand to figure out my ASA, my stop, and how I was going to deal with the focus. I didn’t use any rigs with it because I wasn’t trying to shoot in the traditional way. I tested a bunch of different exposures and then brought the footage to Charlie Hertzfeld at Technicolor, who put it in the system so I could look at the highlights, the moiré and the resolution. Then I went back to the drawing board to do more tests. The 7D has more depth of field than the 5D, but I needed that because I didn’t have a follow-focus unit and needed to work really fast. I shot everything documentary-style. I did all the focus pulls by hand, and we’d just look at it on the camera’s monitor. I ended up shooting on a Canon 24mm lens at 1,600 ASA to get as much depth of field as possible at a stop of T81⁄2."

http://www.eoshd.com/content/482-Darren-Aronofsky-new-film-Black-Swan-shot-on-7D-5D-Mark-II-and-16mm

 

[David Mullen ASC]

...and The Wrestler.

Some of Black Swan was shot on DSLRs:

If you see the movie though, there aren't a lot of shots from the subway sequences... there isn't much DSLR footage in the movie overall... and a number of the Canon shots are actually slightly softer than the rest of the movie.

 

[Brandon J.F.]

If you see the movie though, there aren't a lot of shots from the subway sequences... there isn't much DSLR footage in the movie overall... and a number of the Canon shots are actually slightly softer than the rest of the movie.

I haven't seen it yet. I'm willing to bet that 2/3 Scarlets will be used in situations like this often in the near future.

 

[Peter Moretti]

I just wanted to show that to those who are sceptical with 2/3" images (or can we call it 16mm/S16mm images ?)

I don't think we can. 2/3rd's is smaller than 16 which is smaller than S16. I.e. 2/3rd's is 8.8 X 6.6, 16 is 10.3 X 7.5 and S16 is 12.5 X 7.4.

 

[Gabe Conroy]

I don't think we can. 2/3rd's is smaller than 16 which is smaller than S16. I.e. 2/3rd's is 8.8 X 6.6, 16 is 10.3 X 7.5 and S16 is 12.5 X 7.4.

I think Scarlet's 10.1x5.35mm...

 

[Peter Moretti]

Thanks Gabe,

That makes sense, as I qutoed the 2/3rd's size for 4:3 (which I'm sure the Scarlet isn't).

 

[Jon Chema]

When will we hear more about the Scarlet?

 

[Stuart English]

Scarlet

Scarlet

I think Scarlet's 10.1 x 5.35mm...

Correct. Like EPIC, Scarlet uses a 1.9:1 native aspect sensor.

 

[Jim Retar]

I'm willing to bet that 2/3 Scarlets will be used in situations like this often in the near future.

Hard to say... even the Scarlet will draw some attention, regardless of it's small form (probably from other RED geeks!).

DSLRs are just so common place, people don't look at them.

 

[Erwin Vanderhoydonks]

Scarlet will still have side CF module as standard. Only on EPIC is SSD now standard ( with CF ability through CF to SSD adapter )

I'll go for the side CF module and the SDD module on the back.

 

[Paul Cronin]

Stuart, yes those are the frame rates of the PMW-500. Amazing picture, same chip set as the F800 which I also owned.

Wow I ask about frame rate and they thread goes right off topic.

 

[Peter Moretti]

If you see the movie though, there aren't a lot of shots from the subway sequences... there isn't much DSLR footage in the movie overall... and a number of the Canon shots are actually slightly softer than the rest of the movie.

Just saw the movie tonight. And David is being kind to the DSLR footage. There is no way you'd want a whole movie shot like that, IMHO.

Even for those few scenes, it only works b/c there isn't much of it, the movie visually alters reality anyway at times, the rest is shot on S16--which itself looks grainy.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

Almost swallowed my tung when I saw the scarlet thread. Thought it was a announcement.

 

[Philipe Ratton]

LOL

 

[Benoît-Joan Clariana-Roig]

Almost swallowed my tung when I saw the scarlet thread. Thought it was a announcement.

I think that before an announcement, we should have extended footages (.R3D files) of the Scarlet 8X. I guess that most of people wants that before even pre-ordering.

 

[Meryem Ersoz]

I think that before an announcement, we should have extended footages (.R3D files) of the Scarlet 8X. I guess that most of people wants that before even pre-ordering.

The people who have benefited the most from RED technologies are the people who jumped on board earliest. I'm sure you will have a lot of footage posted from the users who will be ahead of you in adopting the camera, to help the decision-making process.

You have already been promised better latitude and better sensor technology than an MXed RED ONE, whose footage has been extensively posted across the world.

I can't imagine why anyone who doesn't already own a RED would wait to buy one of these based on some footage samples. This will be the greatest price point for a camera ever offered by a camera company in the history of cameras.

The real question (and only question, in my opinion) you should be asking yourself is whether you want to spend time processing RAW footage. Do you have the budget to buy the processing power and the storage? Do you have the budget to spend extra time in post-production milking the footage for the best possible images?

These are real questions. The footage thing has already been answered, many times, across the world and across these boards. R3D+ is all you really need to know.

Footage, schmootage. It seems to me that so many potential SCARLET buyers are so over-focused on the wrong questions and are not clued into what will really matter to them on the other side of the purchase - horsepower and storage. And your own lack of color correction skills -- more will be required of you. Not the camera. You will have to live up to what it can do, not the other way around.

 

[Andrew Salter]

The people who have benefited the most from RED technologies are the people who jumped on board earliest. I'm sure you will have a lot of footage posted from the users who will be ahead of you in adopting the camera, to help the decision-making process.

I don't think thats the case, people want the complete R3D files not a file posted of down rezed footage, but proper footage too look at and test with. There are very few who donate footage as such so why will that change. As a EX1R user as present, l will be buying an Epic S and Fixed Scarlet, it would be great to have a few files to play with.

Surely Red can shoot a few street or countryside scenes for us, so we can download them to play around with.

Would you buy a brand new car without a test drive!!!!!

 

[Meryem Ersoz]

I don't think thats the case, people want the complete R3D files not a file posted of down rezed footage, but proper footage too look at and test with. There are very few who donate footage as such so why will that change. As a EX1R user as present, l will be buying an Epic S and Fixed Scarlet, it would be great to have a few files to play with.

Surely Red can shoot a few street or countryside scenes for us, so we can download them to play around with.

Would you buy a brand new car without a test drive!!!!!

you just ask someone with a RED, not on a forum, for a minor favor - I've had probably dozens of people in my studio playing with R3Ds and RED software, I've had people over with their hard drives loading up sample R3Ds...why would you wait on the internet? if you're ever in Colorado, give a call. sample footage is really not hard to find unless you live in a really remote area.

there have been R3Ds posted online as well, don't have links though.

helping each other takes some of these little demands off the small team who is doing all this amazing stuff.

 

[Benoît-Joan Clariana-Roig]

The real question (and only question, in my opinion) you should be asking yourself is whether you want to spend time processing RAW footage. Do you have the budget to buy the processing power and the storage? Do you have the budget to spend extra time in post-production milking the footage for the best possible images?

I already have the hardware to process RAW footage and I'm playing since months with .R3D, testing the whole workflow. And yes, as a hobbyist, I can (and I badly want) spend time on post-production !

But as a hobbyist, I can't spend more than 11K$ on a camera and accessories before seeing and testing real footage from this product, unlike pro-companies here.

you just ask someone with a RED, not on a forum, for a minor favor - I've had probably dozens of people in my studio playing with R3Ds

We're asking some .R3Ds from Scarlet here : not RED ONE's or EPIC'S. Do you know anyone who uses a Scarlet ? :thumbdown: