Quick Question? Where did Dalsa Origin go wrong ?

[Dominik Muench]

I believe the last movie that used the Dalsa was James Bonds' "Quantum of Solace" for their VFX shots, but apparently they had issues too with the massive amount of data the camera created.

 

[Marc Wielage]

Dan Sasaki did in fact engineer a set of beautiful 4K prime lenses for the Origin camera - they were original Leica R's I think, then given a very Panavision flavored rebarrel and machining.

That figures, given that Dalsa's LA headquarters was about 100 yards away from Panavision's headquarters in Tarzana! The "Dalsa" sign was up for a long time after the company had folded. Note that Panavision's old building is now bulldozed and making way for condos.

I wasn't implying in any way that your sensors are from Dalsa or someone else Jim, I was just curious like everybody else. Thank you for let us know that Red designs its own sensors, and like you said, the manufacturer doesn't matter. Apple does that all the time, (designed in America, made in China). I was just curious because we read about it all the time on the web.

As far as I know, this is more than Jim has ever said publicly about where the Red chips come from. I've been curious about that myself.

Every manufacturer has "secret sauce" on this stuff, and I wouldn't be surprised if Red has used different manufacturers over time. The key to me is the Q/C, because a chip of the quality of the Mysterium or the later Dragon pickup has to have a huge problem with yields. I don't doubt that Red has to go through tons of chips and reject bad ones to make sure their customers get flawless arrays. A chip this small and this complex must be an incredible challenge to produce...

 

[Pablo Moreno]

What does Google have to do with that I said? Yes everyone knows that Aprina and Sony signed a cross patent deal last month. It was on DPreview front page. What does that have to do with I posted?

Are you denying that Sony semiconductor is the largest imaging sensor maker in the world?

Oh yeah!, it has to do a lot with what you said.. You wrote:

"I doubt Sony imagining division would look anywhere else to buy/designs sensors but their own semiconductor division.. "

And , No, I agree, Sony semiconductor is the largest imaging sensor maker in the world.

 

[Dave Blackham]

http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/on-semi-honored-by-arri-during-ces-emmy.html

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ON Semi Honored by ARRI during CES Emmy Awards

ON Semi: ARRI (Arnold & Richter Cine Technik) has been awarded the “Technology and Engineering Emmy Award” from the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences for improvements in large format CMOS image sensors. When accepting the award, ARRI’s Managing Director Franz Kraus specifically thanked ON Semiconductor for its contribution as a partner in the product development.

"ARRI and ON Semiconductor have had a strong and collaborative relationship in the areas of product development and manufacturing for almost a decade," said Franz Kraus. "The design expertise and innovative sensor technology ON Semiconductor brought to this project, coupled with their consistent manufacturing quality and reliable worldwide supply chain network make them a valued partner to have in the highly demanding motion picture equipment marketplace."

"ON Semiconductor designed the ALEV III CMOS Image Sensor specifically for ARRI – utilizing our state-of-the-art imaging technology that resulted in a sensor design featuring a 14-bit true dynamic range in combination with 8 Mpixel resolution at 120 full frames per second," said Bob Klosterboer, SVP at ON Semi. "Working collaboratively with the team at ARRI, we successfully delivered a remarkable product that combines excellent noise performance with high image resolution and increased frame rate to enable precise slow motion image capture. Our congratulations go out to ARRI for their Emmy award."


I just found this interesting. No doubt its a great sensor but one of the reasons we invested in Red some years back was because the thought the images looked great and the company was investing in product development. we havnt been disappointed.