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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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David Battistella said:
Antonio,

No disrespect intended. I appreciate you post and I should re-iterate that I am making that post from a North American/European perspective. The challenges you describe are everywhere and day rates do and have to change with the "place" you are in.

Points take.

David
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No disrespect taken.
:smiley:All cool.
Just hope that RED will continue thinking GLOBALLY.

Thanks David
 
Chris Henze said:
Here's my humble opinion:

Professional Equipment - The user usually needs to compromise how they accomplish a task to get the least compromised results.

Consumer Equipment - The result is compromised so that the users compromised skill set can be effective at all.

Professional People - Manage the necessary compromises needed to realize a valuable commodity.

If we're skilled, we get to make a living plying our trade.
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I agree with you here my friend,thus want to imply that best professional tools are made by professionals in the craft to suit and go beyond their utmost requirements .
 
On PROFESSIONAL we should apply ;
Fonction-Craftmanship-Aesthetic-and innovative values(specific to individuals)
 
High image quality, low noise, wide variety of I/O, manual control so the user has the ability to manipulate acquisition as he or she dreams to.
 
NUFI said:
Gold and Diamond only have value because they transcend time and last for ever .
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Gold and Diamond only have value because of consumer beliefs, largely of based on their beauty AND their rarity. However, Diamonds are far from a rare item, and in fact DeBeers has a large store of them, which, if they were to release, would make diamonds virtually valueless. But we get your point.
 
Greg Starr said:
Gold and Diamond only have value because of consumer beliefs, largely of based on their beauty AND their rarity. However, Diamonds are far from a rare item, and in fact DeBeers has a large store of them, which, if they were to release, would make diamonds virtually valueless. But we get your point.
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You get this wrong my friend .The only value of Gold and Diamond is their lasting commodity value as minerals .their applications as jewelry,thus as consumer commodity are second and trivial to their quality to last .
 
Gold and Diamond became rares only after the roman and catholic inquisitions around the world .Gregg you need to google the facts about gold and diamond .
 
Samual Murman said:
When did that change at Discovery happen? Has anybody ever seen an approved camera list that includes that RED? If so that's great news and about time? But I'd love to see the proof. We hit a brick wall.
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Not to hijack this thread - but look up "Discovery" as a search within the Shot on Red thread. Think of how insane it would be to allow Ex1, but not Red, now think that the folks at Discovery are neither insane nor stupid. Some individual executives who shall not be named are totally clueless, but as a whole, they are very competent. But... It's up to you to sell and talk sometimes - if you are poor at convincing people of things that's another matter.


One time I had a "no Red" advisory on something, but I found out it was really a "No dingy indy-film look shot in actors apartments and L.A. convenience stores" advisory. People often confuse what happens to be often shot on a given camera with the capabilities of that camera. Ii hear stupid things like "The 5D is the best fashion-video camera" because lost of fashion photogs only know that camera, so they use it for the video component. Really it's terrible for that - bad skin tone highlights, moire on fabrics, etc. but it's associated with that.

You need to show them that Red can do deep depth of field, punchy colors and other F900-esque things, sometimes BETTER than the f900.

The problem is many people associate the Red with The Girlfriend Experience and the like which in my opinion looks awful, and really set us back in terms of promoting Red use to our clients - to me it is like the exact opposite of Reverie - ugly, drab, ultra-low budget looking technically rough image evocative of poverty and depression (a friend called it the 2010 VHS look) - not exactly what MOST commercial clients or even fiction film producers want to see. I couldn't even watch it to the end.

That said EX1 F900 and so on have their place too - they are very fast to use, and the Ex1 is very light and has a great zoom.
 
A professional is a human tool that is employed to get a job done.
They come in all shapes, sizes, price ranges and skill levels.

Some people call themselves professionals, others prove it silently.

Like any physical tool, you need to pick the right professional for the job.

If I have learned any thing about professionals, its that when you see a great one in action or get to review their work, you KNOW they are a pro without a doubt.
 
For those asking about how will Red handle immediate replacement and other issues necessary for professionals. How much are you willing to pay for that sort of service?
Do you think Red might have to come up with a tiered pricing model for service in order to keep camera prices down? Or should they leave that up to 3rd parties like Panavision or Abel?
I think this comes under what makes for a professional camera company.
 
noahvolek said:
A professional is a human tool that is employed to get a job done.
They come in all shapes, sizes, price ranges and skill levels.

Some people call themselves professionals, others prove it silently.

Like any physical tool, you need to pick the right professional for the job.

If I have learned any thing about professionals, its that when you see a great one in action or get to review their work, you KNOW they are a pro without a doubt.
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I like thisone, too... -:)
 
all a camera needs to be professional is to be used on jobs that either pay money, or will eventually yield some kind of revenue in the long run...and to meet what are the generally accepted quality standards for that job.

More than anything I think it depends on how the camera is used.

For example:

Someone buys an HD camcorder from best buy and films some home movies with it...nothing professional about that

Take that same camcorder and use it as a "B" or crash camera for a show like mythbusters or dirty jobs and all of a sudden it has become a professional tool.
 
Jannard said:
We profess to make professional cameras. I'd love to hear your take on what exactly professional means to you.

Jim
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Delivering at or beyond expectations. Reliability. Trust. Recognition by peer groups. Respect. Grace under pressure.
 
having spent 10,000 + hours on any given subject while constantly challenging and raising your own internal standards I think would make for a good "professional".
 
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