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Post Your Scarlet-X Rig

How are the SIDE HANDLE owners feeling about the camera size? I actually love how compact the camera is without it, and it looks bulky in all the pictures here.

I haven't received mine, of course, so maybe it's self-justification...
 
George Su said:
How are the SIDE HANDLE owners feeling about the camera size? I actually love how compact the camera is without it, and it looks bulky in all the pictures here.

I haven't received mine, of course, so maybe it's self-justification...
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I totally have been enjoying running around without it, but I really think it's going to add a lot of functionality to my setup and shooting style once it arrives.

It will add a bit of bulk, but the additional grip and controls are totally worth it to me. Not to mention the added functionality of hot swapping.
 
George Su said:
How are the SIDE HANDLE owners feeling about the camera size? I actually love how compact the camera is without it, and it looks bulky in all the pictures here.

I haven't received mine, of course, so maybe it's self-justification...
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Alternatively can you use this cheese plate and attach a grip without function: http://www.viewfactor.net/index.php/products/epic-acc/stealth-plate.html

However, i ordered the Side Handle without Redvolts because he makes possible to control the camera if i hold her with both hands.
 
Here's what we put togther at OConnor for the Scarlet/ Epic cameras:

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Another great thing about the side handle is that you don't have to rely on the touch screen to control the camera. I've seen some people use the touch screen and they are having trouble with it.

I don't remember if the touch screen is capacitive touch, but that could cause a problem for some.

With hard keys, you're more confident that you dialed in the right settings.

Phil Holland said:
I totally have been enjoying running around without it, but I really think it's going to add a lot of functionality to my setup and shooting style once it arrives.

It will add a bit of bulk, but the additional grip and controls are totally worth it to me. Not to mention the added functionality of hot swapping.
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Anthony Vu said:
Another great thing about the side handle is that you don't have to rely on the touch screen to control the camera. I've seen some people use the touch screen and they are having trouble with it.

I don't remember if the touch screen is capacitive touch, but that could cause a problem for some.

With hard keys, you're more confident that you dialed in the right settings.
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I haven't had any problems in very cold weather other than freezing my hands. I keep a little stylus with me in my bag for that reason alone.

The huge impact I think the handle will make is on my shoulder setup. Much easier access to controls and start/stop. I've gotten used to blindly using my thumb on the right back side while the camera is next to my noggin, but the DSMC Side Handle will allow me to actually grab something. Can't wait.
 
I've been making changes to my rig trying to get it set up right and have managed to finally get my Easom halo working. It did not fit with base plate that it came with it, so I picked up a Genus baseplate. After tinkering with it for a while I found i could reverse the rod attachments to lower it, making the halo risers usable. I'll have to re-configure once my wooden camera quick back comes. I'm not looking at a nato rail and quick release.

Handheld is still a bit front heavy but not bad for the amount of times I'll use it.

Easom Halo Cage with top handle.
Genus mattebox and shoulder pad.
Shape handles
Satchler 6 Tripod.

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Ryan De Fanco said:
+10,000, Manfrotto fluid movement is miserable, they are not real heads. Unless you go with the $5,000, $10,000 O'Connor setup, Cartoni cannot be beat. Sachtler always felt too spring loaded to me.
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I really have to disagree here. I have used the 526 head with fully-kitted RED ONE for a very long time without any problems at all (including shooting US OPEN surfing with RPP 300mm) and I have just recently "upgraded" to the new bridge technology in the 509HD for EPIC/SCARLET shooting and I couldn't be happier. This head is truly amazing and butter smooth with the ability to turn all drags to "0" if needed (for example pointing 90˚ straight up to shoot the moon). With almost 30 lbs capacity - it is strong enough even for the craziest EPIC/SCARLET configurations. At $ 900 USD it is a fantastic value and I highly recommend it to anyone looking for light-weight, yet sturdy and smooth setup. I use it with the 545GB legs and I ain't looking back...

Peter
 
Hi Peter, I think Manfrotto has wised up with their newer upper-end tripods... used one this week on a music video, felt impressed. No Cartoni O'Connor movement but worlds better than the stuff I used a few years ago. Maybe I just had beat up rental units.
 
Hey Ryan, I agree that the lower end Manfrottos are really not suitable for any serious cine work. For a long time only the 526 was good enough. While smooth as butter - it had very limited range (steps) of adjustments, but I found my way around that. Now with the 509HD this has been addressed and the movement got even smoother. Add to it backlit level, digital camera balance memory (which I begin to love!) and few other tiny but useful features - I have found my ultimate head. On 90% of my projects I have to cary most of my own gear - so even if I had the extra funds to go O'connor and the likes - I would not even think about it. Once again - the best head out there for price / weight / tracking / quality in the sub $5K range...

Just my two yen...

Peter
 
Here is what I have together so far. from parts I had from other rigs, mostly all zacuto stuff, vocas mattebox, Dfocus FF ( i know... :( )
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Also had a config (no photo yet)where the Shoulder pad sits under the camera more (with a q-release plate) but then the lens height of the camera is about another 1.5 inches higher. Not sure which config I like more...

*edit* here is the other small config. Going to try it with longer rods so I can move the handles forward more when larger lenses. But this is more balanced on my shoulder than the one with the pad behind the unit
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Quick and dirty iPhone pic of the rig we're using today in the studio - I usually try to keep it simple, what ends up on the screen should impress the client...

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Peter Majtan said:
Hey Ryan, I agree that the lower end Manfrottos are really not suitable for any serious cine work. For a long time only the 526 was good enough. While smooth as butter - it had very limited range (steps) of adjustments, but I found my way around that. Now with the 509HD this has been addressed and the movement got even smoother. Add to it backlit level, digital camera balance memory (which I begin to love!) and few other tiny but useful features - I have found my ultimate head. On 90% of my projects I have to cary most of my own gear - so even if I had the extra funds to go O'connor and the likes - I would not even think about it. Once again - the best head out there for price / weight / tracking / quality in the sub $5K range...

Just my two yen...

Peter
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Peter, I completely agree. I got the same manfrotto head with carbon sticks, after the sachtler were too expensive to own for me... and I must say: the manfrotto even beats some of the lower priced sachtler in my eyes. Not only because of the features but also in movement. its buttery smooth compared to the cheaper sachtlers I tried (which are about 2 or 3 times as expensive) I'm not arguing about high end cine gear, but this is a real bargain and would recommend it to any scarlet owner who is looking for a great head in the lower price segment. Haven't put a scarlet on it yet, still waiting on mine, but Jarred has ;) (check the picture with the fully equipped scarlet with mattebox) and from the specs, weight is not a problem.
 
here's scarlet #217.

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pl mount
5" touchscreen
wooden camera 15mm lw bracket
wooden camera 150mm nato rail on easy stick
wooden camera quickback with epic qrc and anton bauer dionic 90.
zacuto z balance
zacuto 3/8" lens support
angenieux 25-250 t3.9 zoom

all sitting on manfrotto 504HD with 535 carbon legs.
 
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