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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Let's talk ergonomics...

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Jim, are you guys mulling over 4:3 aspect ratio for Epic, or has the decision been made?
 
I'm sure now that RED have development experience and a large cache of industry professionals to draw on who are hands on with the camera...

Epic will be just that... EPIC

Scarlet will be great for RED as its an all in one, monitor, lens, battery... so the design team need to focus on the complete camera package and how you physically have to interact with it.

RED One's main focus was how to get the sensor working and recording.
Look at Frankie (was it called Frankie?) a sensor in a bread box.
RED One is a sensor in a box and you have to add a handle, battery, drive etc

Now that the sensor and internals are all working together and RED know the system, they can concentrate on ergonomics.

The most important thing when you're working directly with the camera, holding it, caring it... etc
 
I have deleted all Scarlet-related posts from this thread. If the posters want a copy of the contents of their posts, PM me. Either way, the place for Scarlet discussion is not in an Epic thread. Scarlet has an entire website dedicated to it.
 
AntonyCASAFilms said:
Maybe that is the solution.
Use the Red ONE upside-down, and just flip the image in post?
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It was discussed in a post earlier in this thread. It'd solve one problem, but would result in a bunch more. Try operating handheld when you have 10 cables sticking into the side of your face...
 
Brook Willard said:
It was discussed in a post earlier in this thread. It'd solve one problem, but would result in a bunch more. Try operating handheld when you have 10 cables sticking into the side of your face...
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Would a physical sensor flip be a solution?

Of course not for existing cameras, but if well thought from the get go could be a easy solution to flip that would rule out any processing power issues.

Like a key in the body, you unlock it, turn it up/down and your sensor is flipped.

Is it a dumb idea? Wouldn't be practical?

:tongue:
 
My point is that if you turn the RED body upside-down, all of the ports will stick out of the left side and the buttons will be on the right. It would mean that using the camera handheld would be impossible, as you have to have several cables plugged into the side [now the left side where your face would be] of the camera.
 
Brook Willard said:
My point is that if you turn the RED body upside-down, all of the ports will stick out of the left side and the buttons will be on the right. It would mean that using the camera handheld would be impossible, as you have to have several cables plugged into the side [now the left side where your face would be] of the camera.
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That would assume that we hadn't changed the body and all the outputs were in the same place...

Jim
 
Jannard said:
That would assume that we hadn't changed the body and all the outputs were in the same place...

Jim
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I was referring to flipping the body as an inappropriate solution for the RED ONE in the short term, rather than as a design note for the 5K.

I should hope you guys have done a lot more than flip the body upside-down... :wink:
 
Jannard said:
We are not likely to post anymore real renders until we get the go-ahead from our international patent attorneys. Sorry it has come to this. We didn't vote for it.

Jim
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That is okay.

Jim, we got fed that new accessory render, and I am sure you have seen how EVERYONE drooled over it.

If you give us more fakes of different angles, we will do more of the same.:nerd:
 
I think this thread has served its purpose. And a wonderful purpose it has served. Well done Brook.

But it is clear to me that suggestions from users to RED may go unanswered. and good suggestions from users MUST go unanswered, less they be picked up by those we would rather keep them from.

RED has grown, it's popularity has brought with it a number of wonderful advantages, and some pretty ugly potential fights for it's future.

I don't want to insult the Chinese here, but I will say that anytime a company creates something impressive and profitable, others are going to jump into the game. We all spent hours wondering what Sony or Panasonic would do in the face of RED, but it may be companies no one has ever heard of that will bring the real threat and competition to RED's door.

I'm sure you have all noticed this, but Jim's info on these potential "thefts" plus his announcement of RED Ranch, could very well be a move to get R&D, as well as engineering and construction into a more secure enviornment.

I have paid close attention to Jim's posts and various things. My own personal belief is that RED will be a sensor technology company first, and a camera company 2nd. While the creation of the camera is paramount, it is the sensor that is the heart of the system, and also the one piece of hardware that can go into many other systems. Military applications alone can be major. And this would not be Jim's first time working with those particular clients.

Ok I've said enough. But sadly, from now on, the best compliment you can expect from RED when reading a really good idea is respecful silence, and a quiet smile.

Once again, well done Brook.

Jay Kelley

Do they make "cones of silence" for forums? :)
 
My one Request is make the LCD & Joystick accessible once the camera is configured.

On my Red-One it is hard to get to the controls with the drive on and batterys......

It would be cool to have 2 sets of LCDs and Joysticks, one on the rear and one on the left side!

Think about it - Please :)
 
richcam1 said:
My one Request is make the LCD & Joystick accessible once the camera is configured.

On my Red-One it is hard to get to the controls with the drive on and batterys......

It would be cool to have 2 sets of LCDs and Joysticks, one on the rear and one on the left side!

Think about it - Please :)
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I don't know man, I've gotten pretty good at reaching behind my head with my left arm and operating the joystick. Folk on set are usually pretty impressed ;)

IBloom
 
The Red team has still not answered my request for a miniature smart missile accessory for Epic! I demand acknowledgement! I need to be able to launch an attack on the sound guy from across set when provoked!

Damnit Jim! Answer me! :p
 
Ok... laserbeams added to the spec sheet.

anything else?
 
Multiple internal monitoring pathways? A 27.5mm x 20.5mm four-perforation sensor? Industry standard accessory ports? A circuit to switch between a block battery and an onboard without powering down? A standard voltage meter? A pony? :)
 
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