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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

HV20 1920x1080 4.2.2 Uncompressed

I have directed something for a shot this way. Yes it does look better, yes it is also a bit of a pain in the neck... it's a good thing the people I was working with owned the setup and knew how to make it work. They were very nice and cool and knew what they were doing, otherwise I would have gone nuts. We were using Beta drivers though, so maybe it is less of a hassle now. Next time I do it, I plan on remembering to record to tape as well ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
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Thanks for the info Bruce. It looked like it would be a pain in the neck. But probobly really handy for some things. It will be interesting to see what people are able to come up with. I know on the HV20 forum several people are trying to work out something portable and affordable.

Drizzt yep nice setup. I think thats the one that has all of the HV20 owners drooling haha.
 
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Sorry not sure Justin. But just glancing at the specs I did not see it.
 
Justin Anderson said:
curious, does the XH A1 have an HDMI connector?
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I believe it has an HD-SDI-out which does the same thing, which is send out 4:2:2 1920 x 1080 59.94i without the HDV compression.

Actually, now I see that the XH G1 has HD-SDI-out, and the XL H1, but not the XH A1.
 
is there anyone that knows the difference in quality of component HD and the other options in general, is there a test somewhere

and is there a test for the A1 on this in particular, thinking of getting this camera
 
agwah said:
is there anyone that knows the difference in quality of component HD and the other options in general, is there a test somewhere

and is there a test for the A1 on this in particular, thinking of getting this camera
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My homemade LCD monitor has both HDMI and HD component inputs. I have tried both via my Canon HV20. There is no real distinguishable difference.

Check out this thread ("A1 vs G1 for uncompresed greenscreen studio work"). People there also say it's basically the same.
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=94071

Personally I don't think HD-SDI alone is worth the difference in price. You'll improve the quality of your footage more by spending the money on lights, etc. The other things (timecode in / out, genlock) are useful, though.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
You guys are just paranoid about HDV.

I have quite a few samples (comparing HDV to HDMI with motion sources, also HDV to capturing via HDMI but recompressing on the fly to Cineform and Blackmagic codecs).

Let me get permission from the guy who did the tests first though to repost.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Since I shoot outdoors, I can't imagine the quality difference would be worth it for me, but yeah, it would be cool to see some comparisons.
 
Bruce Allen said:
You guys are just paranoid about HDV.

I have quite a few samples (comparing HDV to HDMI with motion sources, also HDV to capturing via HDMI but recompressing on the fly to Cineform and Blackmagic codecs).

Let me get permission from the guy who did the tests first though to repost.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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Even the sample footage from Canon's website isn't acceptable for me. HDV isn't the atrocity that it originally was, but the image blocking and mosquito noise in high-activity hand held shots is too distracting for me to want to buy it.

Are there any low cost portable HD decks out there? (A fantasy of mine for a while now has been for RED to release a small, portable HD-SDI/HDMI input REDCODE recorder.)
 
....Some of that could also be the H264. The video is only encoded at 56KB per second...barely even appropriate for a single JPEG image of the same size.
 
Justin Anderson said:
Anyone know of any low cost portable HD decks?
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1. Check out the Wafian recorders. They quoted me $500 per day for a very, very lightly compressed recording solution. Visually lossless.

2. Check out Panasonic's DVCPROHD deck (but why?)

3. Build your own small PC. I wanted to do that - was interested in combining it with a high-end sound recording solution so that you could record multiple channels of master-quality sound in sync to the same file as your high-quality video. But it seems that we're not there yet, software-wise.

4. HDCAM, D-5 etc are around $700 - $900 a day. Make sure you get the rental company to run you through recording with the beast. It's not as simple as a DigiBeta deck.

Or just be normal:
a) shoot compressed most of the time
b) connect to a computer if you want to do a studio shoot.
c) rent a Red if you want higher-quality acquisition

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
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