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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Let's talk ergonomics...

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Well this whole China thing could be used to RED's advantage:

1. We come up with some awesome specs (such as 14 stops DR, 6K @ 500 FPS - uncompressed, HDRI recording, etc...)

2. RED "officially" discusses on this forum the specs as if they were actually ready...

3. Chinese spies will inform the HQ and they will re-engineer the specs...

4. China releases "copy" of RED camera with the "awesome" specs...

5. RED buys one of these - reverse engineer the HW and releases update to EPIC...

This would save tons of R&D time and money and Jim can in the meantime get some R&R with the rest of the red-team following the suit...

We, the Epic users, have the last laugh... :) :) :)
 
I think whoever wants to copy RED would probably be better making copy of one of big three.

Technical challenges are not there at all and the margins are much higher.
Making copy of RED and selling it for 16K will not be a good business.
Making copy of F23 and selling it for 80K, well it looks like a good option for pirates.
 
Remembered a few more: A SD/composite output and proper timecode support [so it stays jammed during battery swaps and doesn't drift all day...].

And a better cooling system.

And uncompressed output that is actually accessible and supported [not just buried on a board inside].

I'm sure I'll think of more.
 
Hello, I'm new to this forum, but I have been saving to buy a Red One for more then a year now. Happy moment, I placed my order a few days ago :) I have been reading about the Epic camera and I'm very impressed. Just to handle the amount of data in 5k at 120 fps will take nothing less that a super computer. To make that super computer sit on your shoulder and run of a battery is beyond amazing!

...and as a camera geek I have more stupid feature suggestions:

- WiFi broadcast settings to all cameras in shoot. To just set one camera and then just send this to all Epic cameras on location.

- WiFi/Internet Auto lowres proxy uploading with time code. If the camera have WiFi and can connect itself to the Internet it could upload lowres files with time-code to the post house and an editor can seconds after the camera have been stopped, drop the clip on to the timeline in FinalCut. With matching time-code it would bee a simple deal just drop in the raw 5k files and up-res all later.

- Extreme windowed frame for extreme frame rates. If the camera can handle 5k @ 120 fps it it possible that with a very windowed frame (maybe just SD res) it can handle extreme high frame rates up to several thousands of fps.

- Alternative recording target drives to any connected media fw 400 drive , fw 800, usb2, usb3, esata or over network (SMB, NFS, FTP...)

- Auto fall over on recording drives. If a drive is getting full or is to slow, automatically save the frames to another drive.

- Auto fall over for power, if power adapter fail, the battery kicks in with not interruption.

- RJ45 jacket for gigabit ethernet data connection. All same functions as over WiFi, just faster.

- Lowres video streaming image over data network (for multiple lowres prewiev) Or even into the LCD / viewfinder of another camera on set. Then all from producers across town to anyone that have a need to look at the image can do so just on a computer/PDA or Iphone.

- Movement (difference in image) triggered record (Example: for nature photo, and get the darn Panda when it's sticks it head out the hole)

- Loop record mode, for endless record and auto overwrite of oldest recorded frames.

- WiFi syncro time-code for multiple cameras. All cameras in scene have same time-code and run frame synchronized with no cables.

- WiFi syncro start/stop for multiple cameras. DP can start/stop multiple camera with just one button. (or send electric shock to the operator through the viewfinder if he messed up)

- Wifi data/status telemetry to computer/Iphone where all parameters can be monitored and adjusted (color, frame rate, shutter, resolution, temp, geforce, vibration on camera etc..)

- Internal axis sensors, gyros, accelerometers, geomagnetic compass, gps, temperature, humidity, pressure and electric field sensors. (this can be good for diagnose a bad or a trouble camera) if the camera have been dragged in the dirt and been exposed to hundreds of g's in geforce it could more likely break. Most sensors are small and cost almost nothing.

- Data logging and display for camera movement (like the Nintendo Wii mote) Example. it can show the exact tilt degree in the viewfinder.

- Camera movement memory. After a shoot the camera store the move in a file so it can be used for matching CGI's, or re creating a scene later.

- Movement triggered functions. Example like if the camera should ride on a car and should start record when the car moves and stop when the car stops.

- EKG sensor in viewfinder, so if the camera operator is having a hart attack the camera dials the hospital and mail human resource department to get another guy in :) ..or just an auto power off the viewfinder if no eye is there.

- Old fart button: Minimal/partial hardware/software disable button for fast boot up time and battery saving. If you hate gadgets and need a fast booting camera that runs on minimal power and no features.

- Bluetooth for close range accessory like lens motors, then just power wires is connected and make a cleaner looking cam.

- GPS data for every frame if exact location (good for re-creating scenes or doing pickups, google earth etc..)

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Still, if the camera "just" shoot images in 5k at 120 fps, this is nothing less than totally amazing :)
Great work!

Cheers
 
Hahaha, JanneSFE, you forgot to throw in the kitchen sink!

JK, those are some great suggestions. I bet a couple of those might even be things Red Team had not thought of.
 
Including positional sensors in the camera has been requested before, but the idea that the camera could output movement info to a remote head or motion control system is brilliant. Imagine being able to do the move with the actors live, maybe even handheld, and then have the mo-co system play back that exact move for the effects passes!

Including a GPS might seem like overkill, but it would be useful in a number of ways:
-tracking footage from lost and stolen cameras (or at least seeing where they were being used)
-location scouting
-sun positioning, triggering timelapse based on knowing when and where the sun will rise
-universal time code - remember that the GPS satellites are super-accurate atomic clocks! You could have every Epic camera in the world always in perfect sync with each other!
 
Sure allot of work both hardware and software design. If there is a way to make and run custom app in the camera most of this functions can be made later by geeky guys/gals :) Not sure how the new SDK will work.
 
Thanks for all the tips and suggestions...

Jim
 
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