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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

foolcontrol for iPhone...

Mikael Lubtchansky said:
Hello Leroy,

not decided on pricing yet for iPhone version (runs on iPad too in x1 / x2 'emulated' mode but the initial version will be designed for iPhone / iPodTouch screen size).

Expect features on par (and sometime more advanced than the current OS X version) so it certainly won't be a 20$ app...

Will give details as soon as price is confirmed.
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Well I suppose I can swing 25 bucks for it haha. Just kidding. This app is gonna be KILLER! Keep us posted :)
 
ipad minis is preferred for us or still ahve interest in iPhone 5s or 4s
 
Thanks Dave. foolcontrol iOS is designed to run on iPhone 5/5s and also on 4s smaller screens.
It works fine on iPad in emulated mode with 1x 2x zoomed user interface. Will probably start working on a specific iPad design after the iPhone release...

here is a pict from NightFactory beta testing it in the field on an iPad mini :

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Looks great. So heres what may appear to be an odd one for you. We would like to control Epic/Dragon via Fool Control on iPad mini but via cable not via Wireless. Gbit and via the Control port but not simultaneously, its different configurations. The reason for the cable requirement is we use cameras in housings. We have several firm requirements for this config.
 
Ethernet is no problem... as long as camera and iPad are on same network via gigabit router it works fine.

Control port, not yet implemented in my apps but I shall look into it. You plan on plugging a serial cable into the iPad ?
 
Mikael Lubtchansky said:
Ethernet is no problem... as long as camera and iPad are on same network via gigabit router it works fine.

Control port, not yet implemented in my apps but I shall look into it. You plan on plugging a serial cable into the iPad ?
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Gbit sounds good to me. Question on iPad Mini is there any form of ethernet interface other than wireless (I know I should know this)

re control port, yes potentially use serial interface if we can.

All of this sounds good, may be email me we can discuss direct.
 
Nope, as far as I know the only way to connect an iPad to the internet is via wifi, no wired solution to use a GIG-E cable.

I will try to build a serial cable and look into control port solution but might not be able to do so before mid next month... send me your email in PM or email me : mika at foolcolor dot net...
 
Dave Blackham said:
Looks great. So heres what may appear to be an odd one for you. We would like to control Epic/Dragon via Fool Control on iPad mini but via cable not via Wireless. Gbit and via the Control port but not simultaneously, its different configurations. The reason for the cable requirement is we use cameras in housings. We have several firm requirements for this config.
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Hmmmmm .... easiest way here is to make a custom Gbit cable that connects to the camera in the housing. Then, connect that cable to a router - connect the iOS device to the router.

There are actually solutions for rs232 wired to iOS devices - (http://redpark.com/serial-cable-115-2-kbps-c2-db9v/) but - you need to code software specifically for this - so ... I'd take the path of least resistance with Gbit cable > WiFI Router > iPad
 
The redpark serial solution works well with the camera. In fact we had support for it in our iPad application at NAB. The problem is getting an application with redpark support approved in the App Store. For one off or in house projects it works great.

By the way, our android app will connect wired to our cameras using a USB to serial adaptor.
 
Yes Trent, just got their SDK and it looks like anything commercial using this cable cannot be distributed, only home/school/enterprises stuff :-(

Guess it would require using Ad hoc distribution for such an app and avoid going thru the app store altogether (for limited distribution).


edit : confirmed from Redpark : Apple approved the use of lightning or 30pin connector thru their MADE FOR iPHONE program to make the sell the serial cable but not the distribution of Apps using it thru the app store. Only private deploy.
 
Trent Lillehaugen said:
The redpark serial solution works well with the camera. In fact we had support for it in our iPad application at NAB. The problem is getting an application with redpark support approved in the App Store. For one off or in house projects it works great.

By the way, our android app will connect wired to our cameras using a USB to serial adaptor.
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Too bad. Will there be any other way/adaptor to get it to work with iOS?
 
Right now it does technically work. You can create an app for internal / entreprise use but just are not allowed to put it up on the app strore.

A pity as that's possibly the only direct way to connect a cable between a RED and an iOS device but if you really need that you can at least make it work... Just not distribute the app widely...
 
Yep, only DSMC has a 9 pin lemo... so I guess they made a mistake saying it was a RED ONE cable... I only tested the RED version of that cable so no idea if this one works...
 
beta video preview

beta video preview

OK

time for a short video sneak peak now that I enabled focus page in the beta app…

I decided to simply show an unedited video of a quick camera control session… (might be a bit boring tho : 5 minutes, no sound, voice nor music)

From left to right :
mirrored DRAGON touch screen UI - mirrored iPhone screen - BTS camera shooting the scene.

I made a few finger mistakes while moving curves and setting focus limits as I was watching too many screens at the same time but you’ll get the idea.

Just scratching the surface of what the app can do in this demo but hopefully still shows a bit of action with cam settings, mini slate, look, curves, focus and playback at the end… much more buttons, details and gestures are not shown here and I still have little bit of work to finish all the features but should give you a good idea of what’s coming.

Will try to do a better video when I get the time, meanwhile feel free to ask questions, and hope to see you all come and play with it at IBC :-)


http://vimeo.com/foolcolor/foolbeta


edit : before someone asks. Yes the focus wheel has virtual hard stops, yes you can remap a smaller range to full 360 rotation (even to a selectable rotation of 720, 1080, 1800 or 3600 degree so you can pretty much nail any of the 65536 focus position the camera accepts via REDLink) and while doing that all your focusing marks are preserved.
 
Mikael Lubtchansky said:
edit : before someone asks. Yes the focus wheel has virtual hard stops, yes you can remap a smaller range to full 360 rotation (even to a selectable rotation of 720, 1080, 1800 or 3600 degree so you can pretty much nail any of the 65536 focus position the camera accepts via REDLink) and while doing that all your focusing marks are preserved.
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Nice job, was able to play with the focus control a bit this morning. It might be nice to have a programmable speed for the racking between markers.
 
Yes will add this, right now it just jumps from one value to another but I'll play with some nice bezier shaped curves for programmed rack focusing using markers :-)
 
Looks great, do I got this correctly, you can set limits for the focus and assign an f-stop to each? (If supported by the lens, e.g., the pancake(?) 40mm that you used)

Same functionality on an iPod? This all looks just fantastic.
 
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