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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Exposure Tool

Phil Holland said:
You're doing the right thing. RAW view and the Exposure Check will reveal exactly where potential problem areas are. Where Red and Purple are should be areas that you intend to clip or crush, if not, a different lighting scheme or exposure should likely be explored.

For general exposure when in one of the Video Gammas (more or less are there to produce a normal looking image/rec.709) Video Check "tells" you where more values land so you can carve it out the way you want. The same could be said if you are using a custom Look with a different curve or whatever.

The Exposure Tool is based on the RAW data, but can also be effected by the "look". Heh. I may to look at the manual again, but that's certainly what it's doing.
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Yes I feel like the exposure tool used to be just based on raw and didn't change with iso but that is not the case now and i definitely prefer the old way.
 
I can confirm that the Exposure Tool is not based on the RAW anymore.

Not like it says in the manual.

If you change ISOs, it has a huge effect on what the Exposure Tool is showing.

Is it broken again?
 
Medavoym said:
I can confirm that the Exposure Tool is not based on the RAW anymore.

Not like it says in the manual.

If you change ISOs, it has a huge effect on what the Exposure Tool is showing.

Is it broken again?
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Exposure Tool in combination with RAW View is doing exactly what you want it to do.

There's been some revisions obviously to a lot of this. I think Red just needs to update the manual.
 
Phil Holland said:
Exposure Tool in combination with RAW View is doing exactly what you want it to do.

There's been some revisions obviously to a lot of this. I think Red just needs to update the manual.
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Yes, but it is better to hit 1 button to see raw with exposure. Is it possible to map this to 1 button?
 
Phil Holland said:
I think Red just needs to update the manual.
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Hi Phil,

It looks like you need to update your pdfs as well :-)

Don't you think it would be better to base the Exposure Tool on the Raw, btw?
As it's written in the manual and as the tool was originally designed to function.
 
The newest firmware update has my screen turning green in the near clipping highlights (especially practicals in teh shot or any actual source) even when I don't do exposure check. Has anyone else noticed this? We had a multi camera shoot last week and it was the same on both cameras.

Does anyone know how to turn it off? Really strange that they'd make this a default setting.
 
Medavoym said:
Hi Phil,

It looks like you need to update your pdfs as well :-)

Don't you think it would be better to base the Exposure Tool on the Raw, btw?
As it's written in the manual and as the tool was originally designed to function.
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In my notes I express that Raw View and the Exposure Tool work well together. Outside of this I'm citing what is written.

Essentially my notes will always be tailored towards more or less my own thoughts on best uses and practices.

All I can do is point you towards what you want. In this case Raw View + Exposure Tool.


Frank Hague said:
The newest firmware update has my screen turning green in the near clipping highlights (especially practicals in teh shot or any actual source) even when I don't do exposure check. Has anyone else noticed this? We had a multi camera shoot last week and it was the same on both cameras.

Does anyone know how to turn it off? Really strange that they'd make this a default setting.
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That sounds freaky weird. I'd love to see an .R3D or a even cell phone photo showing what you are describing. Sounds very odd.
 
pinned for reference.
 
Phil Holland said:
In my notes I express that Raw View and the Exposure Tool work well together. Outside of this I'm citing what is written.

Essentially my notes will always be tailored towards more or less my own thoughts on best uses and practices.

All I can do is point you towards what you want. In this case Raw View + Exposure Tool.
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Your pdfs are MUCH appreciated Phil!

Just pointing out the current discrepancy in your description, probably because the exposure tool seems to be changing behavior from build to build.
Which is not ideal.

Not your fault.

The exposure tool was conceived to be significantly different than the video check. Otherwise, what's the point?

There have been a number of threads and everyone agrees. The Exposure Tool should be tied to the RAW mode and truly show what is noise and what is clipped at the sensor level. Independent from any ISO, gammas, etc applied in the metadata. And without going in the RAW mode first.

I think it has been discussed at length already? And it seemed to have been fixed at some point, after it was broke? It seems to be broken again at the moment.
 
Elsie N said:
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FWIW -> go to the top of the page and under 'thread tools' you can "subscribe to this thread..."
(thru you control panel only if you do not want to get email alerts)...

the thread will show with the green dot meaning you are subscribed and it will show in your subscribed threads :-)
 
Mikael Lubtchansky said:
FWIW -> go to the top of the page and under 'thread tools' you can "subscribe to this thread..."
(thru you control panel only if you do not want to get email alerts)...

the thread will show with the green dot meaning you are subscribed and it will show in your subscribed threads :-)
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Thanks Mikael, I'll check that out.
 
Yes what's the point if it's not tied to raw view. C'mon red, fix it!
 
Frank Hague said:
The newest firmware update has my screen turning green in the near clipping highlights (especially practicals in teh shot or any actual source) even when I don't do exposure check. Has anyone else noticed this? We had a multi camera shoot last week and it was the same on both cameras.

Does anyone know how to turn it off? Really strange that they'd make this a default setting.
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I'm getting this as well. If I go into RAW view mode and back to normal view, it goes away. The colour is more like teal on my camera. I haven't checked whether this is the same on my other Dragon.
 
Russ Campbell said:
I'm getting this as well. If I go into RAW view mode and back to normal view, it goes away. The colour is more like teal on my camera. I haven't checked whether this is the same on my other Dragon.
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Yeah, that's my work around as well: just go into Raw mode and back. Though recently I haven't been seeing it pop up that much, so strange.
 
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