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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

EPIC-S (old Scarlet S35) update...

Does anyone know if you will have an option for higher frame rates at 2K?
 
Stephen Smith said:
Does anyone know if you will have an option for higher frame rates at 2K?
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Yes. :-) As you know, the R1 had 2K at 120fps.
We don't know the final EPIC-S specs yet, but it should have at least as much as the R1.

My bet is 2K at 150fps.
 
Thomas Church said:
How is 1080p going to be handled in-camera?

For at least the first years I don't see myself shooting 5K for anything but theatrical films or television.

For corporate jobs, etc, 1080p is going to be enough.

Is there a "1080p RAW" option?
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Thomas you probably already know this ...

But also keep in mind that you may want to shoot 5k and then transcode to to 1080p, using your preferred codec .... so you are utilizing the full sensor. That's what I will do for anything I'm shooting for the web.

I remember the first time I used the Red One, I was puzzled by the fact that when I lowered the shooting resolution to 3k or 2k, the field of view got so much smaller. Even the wide 18mm shots felt so cropped .... doh! A classic Red newbie mistake :-P
 
Electronic follow focus?

Electronic follow focus?

Jarred Land said:
Yes... Canon mounts are complete and functioning ( just fine tuning the auto focus and adding more and more lenses to the database ) . Nikon mount en route.
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Hello Jarred,

I know it is difficult to answer, but I'll ask anyway. How far do you see in the future since the Epic-M (2nd or 3rd stage) starts shipping to get an electronic follow focus for those canon mounts? Will the Redmote Pro be able to do precise follow focus with canon lenses or the only way to do it will be physically adding gears and have a gear follow focus. Auto focus sounds great, but for cine work I think having a follow focus system is a must.

Thank you.
 
Question: Does the Epic-S/X still window the sensor for 2K and 3K, or does it do an actual scale? (I know the Red-One windows the sensor)
Thanks
 
Jarred,

Will Epic have an SD out that will work with my Steadicam Flyer?

Do you know if anything has changed between RED One and Epic in regards to the way you time stamp movies being recorded?
 
Everyone should keep in mind that this is a pro solution- not pro-sumer. If you want 1080p there will be a module for encoding on the fly as mentioned in previous posts. Though as Jim et al have said many times- 1080p isn't good enough for professional work. The module is intended for instant dailies or rushing to editorial. I tend to agree- even for industrials. The best 1080 is from 2k, the best 2k from 3k, and the best 4k from 5k, etc. The computing power really isn't the issue- and neither should hard disc space in this day and age.

As for SD out- even if there isn't an option to change the output, there are plenty of HD to SD converters out there. The AJA HD10C2 comes to mind.
 
So, there isn't a 2K record option that uses the full sensor, is that it?

I can manage, I'm just curious.
 
Thomas Church said:
So, there isn't a 2K record option that uses the full sensor.
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Recording lower than full resolution with RED has always meant a windowed sensor unless using the proxy module or recording the HD-SDI out signal. Think 16mm from 35mm. If I'm wrong someone please step in.


Terry VerHaar said:
The Epic-X sensor and Scarlet S35 (Now Epic-S) are listed as 30 x 15 mm.
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Which is physically larger than S35 3-perf. :)
 
So what about the Epic-S FF35? If the old scarlet ff35 was priced at $12,000, should we expect $17,000 for an ff35 brain? After the s35 models RED will focus on 2/3", then perhaps dive into FF35 land? This is assuming the November 2009 announcement is still relevant...
 
Wow, Epic-S is right at the limit of my potential budget. I was thinking Scarlet with better glass, but if I can use the lenses I have and get the Epic...
Will the brain drive Canon EF lenses in such a way that you can smoothly control aperture (no stepping)? Do you still pull focus manually with an Epic or use a touch screen? Is it practical to start with EF lenses and convert to PL at some point in the future (factory upgrade)? Ah, new possibilities raise new questions...
 
Andrew Huse said:
...should we expect $17,000 for an ff35 brain? After the s35 models RED will focus on 2/3", then perhaps dive into FF35 land? This is assuming the November 2009 announcement is still relevant...
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Yes..those all seem pretty fair assumptions.

John Stamets said:
.. Do you still pull focus manually with an Epic or use a touch screen? Is it practical to start with EF lenses and convert to PL at some point in the future (factory upgrade)? Ah, new possibilities raise new questions...
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You can choose manual or auto focus...as for lenses you just match the mount to the lens. PL..Canon...Nikon..and Red mounts available.
 
I hope motion work doesn't move into FF35 arena.

I'm sick and tired of the uber short DOF world.

People need to watch some Kurosawa.
 
Thomas Church said:
So, there isn't a 2K record option that uses the full sensor, is that it?

I can manage, I'm just curious.
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Basically, that is it. The Epic's S35 sensor has an active pixel array that is 5120 pixels wide (hence 5K). If you want to go to a lower resolution the sensor can be cropped, for example to a 2048 pixels wide area (hence 2k).

See the table below for the various options (everything subject to change, of course).

http://reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=582883&postcount=83
 
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Thomas Church said:
I hope motion work doesn't move into FF35 arena. I'm sick and tired of the uber short DOF world.
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Actually motion work has already been there back in the 1950's
Paramount's wide screen format was Vista Vision.
This was 8 perfs going through the camera horizontally not vertically. FF35.
Many movies were shot in this format. Monument Valley never looked so good as it did
shot in Vista Vision in The Searchers. Huge difference between that
film and any other movie shot there.

Hitchcock shot couple films in the format...Veritgo..North by Northwest..
John Ford's...The Searchers
Marlon Brando directed his only film One-Eyed Jacks
 
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