DSMC2 BETA V7.1

[Björn Benckert]

I leave it on Shutter Speed, but I'm a big boy and know why I do

Keeping it at speed is a great way to keep keep both dp’s and ac’s a bit on toes. To me the degree makes so much more sense when flipping trough odd framerates and such.

Progressive adults.

We have passed the era of mechanical shutters even though, some are trying to hold on to the past. Nothing wrong doing that but, let's move forward.

I dont really see it that way. Sure the degree number where the full frame exposure is equal to 360 is an reference to a spinning mirror. In the digital age maybe we should start talking fractions instead. Like .5 would be equal to 180 deg.

But if going there then you might as well rename iso and call it digital gain and quite a few other things could also be changed.

Maybe its just my math brain thats slow but if I for example shoot 23.96fps and have a shutter time of for example 1/53,5 then if I go to 62,1fps i find it a bit difficult to quckly calculate what speed would create the exact same motion blur / have the same fraction of frame exposing. But when talking degrees its simply the same for both speeds.



Another one I find is a bit odd is the coloring menue where the menu covers pretty much all of the rouch screen. Not easy to see whats done to the image if not having a second monitor.

 

[David Kiang]

On DSMC2 Helium, when installing firmware 7.1 Beta, I get error message "Battery Module Not Updated" with Wooden Camera Cable-less V-Mount BlueShape (upgraded PCB board). This happening to anyone else?

 

[D Fuller]

I’m still on DSMC1, but I’m delighted to see some love here to the Nikon lens users. Thank you!

Will these come to Dragon?

 

[D Fuller]

I leave it on Shutter Speed, but I'm a big boy and know why I do

+ 1

 

[Phil Holland]

I leave it on Shutter Speed, but I'm a big boy and know why I do

And literally to counteract my own use case.

It's literally 5 seconds to change the display within the menu AND you can now see both Shutter Speed and Angle within the GUI shortcut when tapped.

One thing I've had to do over the years, and is a continued learning experience, is to discover and examine other people's working preferences and techniques.

In the case of Shutter related things, RED has provided both options and both are available in the menus and both are available to setup as Presets.

So my basic logic is whenever I load a new firmware and do that first Sensor Calibration, I also apply my saved Preset (which even lives on the camera nowadays) and ensure that the shortcut keys, GUI, and various settings are just the way I like them.

And when I rent other cameras, I offload those Presets to a Mini-Mag and import them.

 

[Les Hillis]

+1 for the low-voltage indicator, will definitely be using that.

Focus Peaking looks to me like the old Focus Check but with a red colour added to the in-focus area, which could also prove useful.

Thanks for the updates and improvements.

 

[Phil Holland]

+1 for the low-voltage indicator, will definitely be using that.

Focus Peaking looks to me like the old Focus Check but with a red colour added to the in-focus area, which could also prove useful.

Thanks for the updates and improvements.

They are different implementations for sure. Peaking "rolls off" slightly differently than the "blanket sharpening" of Focus Check IMO. This appears to be a pretty proper implementation.

 

[paulcurtis]

Super cool. Can't wait to install it.

>* Added Teradek Bolt support

What does this mean, i can't find any written details of that?

cheers
Paul

 

[Patrick Tresch]

They are different implementations for sure. Peaking "rolls off" slightly differently than the "blanket sharpening" of Focus Check IMO. This appears to be a pretty proper implementation.

I hope the peaking is not imbedded in the recorded Prores file and could be triggered On/Off on the SDI output.

Pat

 

[Phil Holland]

I hope the peaking is not imbedded in the recorded Prores file and could be triggered On/Off on the SDI output.

Pat

It shouldn't be and shouldn't be transmitted through "Clean" output. None of the "Tools" have ever been baked into ProRes or DNxHR.

What you are referring to is tuning the "sharpness" setting, which is made to effect your mezzanine codecs as you could potentially be creating a straight to air or straight to edit file.

 

[Loic Parent]

On DSMC2 Helium, when installing firmware 7.1 Beta, I get error message "Battery Module Not Updated" with Wooden Camera Cable-less V-Mount BlueShape (upgraded PCB board). This happening to anyone else?

David, i'm having the same issue, and then the camera shuts down automatically after 10s because it detect a low voltage even if the battery is full...
Swtiched to the RED V mount module and everything works fine.

That wooden camera plate already went trough a PCB update to pass trough the voltage with the latest firmwares...

 

[Patrick Tresch]

David, i'm having the same issue, and then the camera shuts down automatically after 10s because it detect a low voltage even if the battery is full...
Swtiched to the RED V mount module and everything works fine.

That wooden camera plate already went trough a PCB update to pass trough the voltage with the latest firmwares...

AGAIN! That's a bummer.

 

[Joachim Hoge]

Trying to manually create a calibration, but the camera jumps from 25p to 24p when it starts the process. What do I do wrong?

 

[Giles Harvey]

Trying to manually create a calibration, but the camera jumps from 25p to 24p when it starts the process. What do I do wrong?

Ignor that. Its standard for the calibration. Goes through lots of different FPS to get possible overall balance.

 

[Joachim Hoge]

Thanks

 

[David Kiang]

David, i'm having the same issue, and then the camera shuts down automatically after 10s because it detect a low voltage even if the battery is full...
Swtiched to the RED V mount module and everything works fine.

That wooden camera plate already went trough a PCB update to pass trough the voltage with the latest firmwares...

I was told by Flo at RED that a firmware update from Wooden Camera is needed to address this issue with the new RED firmware 7.1.

Hopefully, Wooden Camera will follow up with their firmware update.

 

[Robert Hofmeyr]

I was told by Flo at RED that a firmware update from Wooden Camera is needed to address this issue with the new RED firmware 7.1.

Hopefully, Wooden Camera will follow up with their firmware update.

Does the Wooden Camera battery plate render this update unusable, or is there a workaround until WC updates their firmware?

 

[Neil Abeynayake]

Trying to manually create a calibration, but the camera jumps from 25p to 24p when it starts the process. What do I do wrong?

Is your project time base and shutter set for 25 frames?

 

[alexjentz]

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"+1 on this comment.

Who on earth does not set it to degrees?"

I leave it on Shutter Speed, but I'm a big boy and know why I do

Quote Neil:

Progressive adults.

We have passed the era of mechanical shutters even though, some are trying to hold on to the past. Nothing wrong doing that but, let's move forward.

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same here... since the first day of using a digital 35mm sensor on the RED ONE, after coming from the likes of 435 film cameras, and then thinking about it, it never occurred to me why in the world i would want to see or set an Angle of Degree of a Mechanical Shutter in a Digital Sensor Camera... There is just no mechanical in there!

so why not lets all together keep moving into the digital future together and not hold on to old analog film relicts, just because it either "has always been used to be done like this" or "i love to write 180 degrees or 172 etc on the slate..."
please excuse my nightly ( german time) rant and i hope i dont offended anyone ... and please correct me if i am totally wrong on this one... i might be missing some detail or it is some form of generational ignorance ... and if you feel better or have your good reasons for showing a shutter... that should or could always stay an option in the menus ( or showing both simulatneous like Phil said)
(-> oh and i am not talking about that in one of the two display modes the actual shutter changes / or does not with changing frame rate )
that is actually a useful feature and i think that should be a secondary option that you can either set or not set.... like "link / unlink shutter speed to Framerate" but in my opinion should not be related or set based on a display of shutter in degrees or time Units.

so good night and good fight for today from germany... ( i am going to try 7.1 on one of our monstros tomorrow and especially hope that it will work ok with Wooden Camera D-Boxes / wireless plates ... heard some horror stories already )

 

[Josiah Duncan]

I prefer and keep it on shutter angle so that when I'm switching between varispeed modes it automatically stays at 180deg and I have to adjust one less menu option of the slow 4.7 inch touch.