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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon....

Here it is the left field question>>> JARRED you guys killed the battery belt also..yes I've had battery belts for years..battery belt $200. Battery kit $800 will you make a cable or converter with an XLR connection for the battery belt power??? My belt will push 12 to 14 volts but my camera pushes 15v. Maaaaan back in the day I would be on a shoot for hours on one heavy ass battery belt until I bought a real camera. EPIC! I still have a pro JVC and 16mm film cameras that will run off the battery belt...Hook me up=)
 
Jamie_Guy said:
Phil, we are finally getting an Epic in the next week or so. Would you mind explaining more in depth about how you do this or link to a prior post where you have? Don't want to get this thread off topic. Dragon sounds awesome. That is why we chose RED, way ahead of the curve and in another atmosphere altogether.
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Congrats on the Epic Jamie. I'll make up a graphic this week illustrating the concept and start a new thread.


Chris Bourke said:
Decisions, decisions. Trying to figure out whether I should buy a used Epic right now and shoot till I can afford the Dragon, or just take the hit and buy a new Epic w/ Dragon.
Any suggestions?
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Well for me it made sense to upgrade from my beloved Red Scarlet-X to Epic with Mysterium-X today because I have shoots that can take advantage of the 5K and overcranking benefits (I've had three shoots since receiving my Epic a couple weeks ago). Then I'll be able to upgrade to Dragon when it's available.

I'd say if you can make use of Epic today, go for it.


Patrick Grossien said:
Hehehe, Jarred's call didn't seem to take long to get through it seems.

You lucky sons of a dragon!
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When Jarred or Chris call I don't say no. I say what?!, really?!, and where?!
 
I still say take the hit..when you own the camera everything else will go out the window. I had a scarlet and never shot with it because I'm a little behind on two films in post but I went EPIC anyway. I will learn what I need to learn now but the first important thing is to buy the camera that you want and need for the job. All Im saying is why waste money buying a used Epic when you can put that money on a new EPIC DRAGON. With the latest and greatest camera from RED you may get more jobs and pay it off quick or make your money back faster.
 
Chris Bourke said:
Decisions, decisions. Trying to figure out whether I should buy a used Epic right now and shoot till I can afford the Dragon, or just take the hit and buy a new Epic w/ Dragon.
Any suggestions?

Chris
bourkeproductions.com
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Check and see if you can upgrade the used Epic to Dragon later. If so, buy the Epic, get in line for Dragon, and start shooting now. As some have suggested, face-time with the camera is important and I suspect knowing how to expose the Epic X will serve you well when switching over to the Dragon sensor.

EDIT: Just remembered the Dragon upgrade only comes with a 90 day warranty while a new Dragon probably comes with a one year warranty. Wait for the Epic Dragon.
 
Jarred,

Any chance I can persuade someone at RED to change the way the upgrade shipping invoices are written? I just had to pay customs duties for the full amount on my recent Scarlet X to Epic X MX upgrade instead of just getting taxed on the $9500 USD. Planning on upgrading to the Dragon in the near future!
 
Danai Chutinaton said:
Jarred,

Any chance I can persuade someone at RED to change the way the upgrade shipping invoices are written? I just had to pay customs duties for the full amount on my recent Scarlet X to Epic X MX upgrade instead of just getting taxed on the $9500 USD. Planning on upgrading to the Dragon in the near future!
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I'm interested in this as well, got dinged full Epic price instead of the difference.
 
Danai Chutinaton said:
Jarred,

Any chance I can persuade someone at RED to change the way the upgrade shipping invoices are written? I just had to pay customs duties for the full amount on my recent Scarlet X to Epic X MX upgrade instead of just getting taxed on the $9500 USD. Planning on upgrading to the Dragon in the near future!
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Email Brent, he will look into it.
 
Elsie N said:
Check and see if you can upgrade the used Epic to Dragon later. If so, buy the Epic, get in line for Dragon, and start shooting now. As some have suggested, face-time with the camera is important and I suspect knowing how to expose the Epic X will serve you well when switching over to the Dragon sensor.

EDIT: Just remembered the Dragon upgrade only comes with a 90 day warranty while a new Dragon probably comes with a one year warranty. Wait for the Epic Dragon.
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The Epic M Dragon comes with a 2 year warranty, which can be extended to 4years, with red Armour, for $2,850.
New Epic X has 3 year warranty, but the dragon upgraded portion gets only 90 days of warranty, while the Epic X warranty still runs on the original purchase, if you were only owner (not transferred).
The non M version of new Epic dragon still not listed on Red Store site, but purchase price has been mentioned to be $24K. We'll see...

Thank you very much

Fury
 
GPU Debayer? Could this be true?

That would be something special in addition to what is already special. Keep up the good work team.


Jarred Land said:
heh heh heh. Baby steps :)
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Hey Phil, I have a crop-factor question for you:

Because the new Dragon sensor is larger, will 5KFF on the Dragon yield the same field of view as 5KFF on the current MX sensor? I was reading over your spec sheets, and I saw that you posted 5KFF = 28.9mm on the Dragon. Is that a horizontal measurement or a diagonal measurement?

Edit: Nevermind, I just answered my own question.

It's pretty obvious those measurements on your anticipated coverage chart are diagonal. Still though, 28.9mm 5KFull on the Dragon isn't too far off from the MX's 5KFF 31.4mm diagonal. Good to know.
 
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If I recall the Dragon Scarlet was stated not to shoot at 6k at all. I would hope however that at least the stills part of the DSMC could be 6k (about 19 megapixel I believe). Is there any hope for 6kstills (or some slow speed such as 1fps on Scarlet Dragon?
 
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