Tom, I'm not saying they'll go under ... you're right, they will be fine and stay in business. But what I'm saying is that for those in the market for high-end lenses -- whether purchase or rental -- the fact that the wide focal lengths won't work with what is sure to be THE hottest and most widely distributed true cinema camera in the world (Epic) is a BIG drawback. The S4's are already expensive relative to UP's and perhaps overpriced compared to Cooke's own 5i series (just slightly more for the 5's through ZGC) .... so not covering 5k at the wide end makes the S4's a total deal breaker. Same with the 5's at over $150k for the set of 8 ...
Anyways, I'm actually a fan of the "Cooke look" -- but there's no way on earth I'd choose them over Leica or Zeiss' high-end offerings given this limitation.
Just saying that creating Epic-compatible S4/5i sets is in their best interest and probably worth the investment for Cooke
Anthony
P.S. -- All this is to say that the Panchros are looking like a better and better deal. I'm curious ... how is the rental rate/demand on them?
Tom, I'm not saying they'll go under ... you're right, they will be fine and stay in business. But what I'm saying is that for those in the market for high-end lenses -- whether purchase or rental -- the fact that the wide focal lengths won't work with what is sure to be THE hottest and most widely distributed true cinema camera in the world (Epic) is a BIG drawback. The S4's are already expensive relative to UP's and perhaps overpriced compared to Cooke's own 5i series (just slightly more for the 5's through ZGC) .... so not covering 5k at the wide end makes the S4's a total deal breaker. Same with the 5's at over $150k for the set of 8 ...
Anyways, I'm actually a fan of the "Cooke look" -- but there's no way on earth I'd choose them over Leica or Zeiss' high-end offerings given this limitation.
Just saying that creating Epic-compatible S4/5i sets is in their best interest and probably worth the investment for Cooke
Anthony
P.S. -- All this is to say that the Panchros are looking like a better and better deal. I'm curious ... how is the rental rate/demand on them?
I dunno man, i would take S4/5's over pretty much any lens. MP included. ( Leicas .... maybe not
The MP leave me feeling flat. I look at the monitor/dalies and i dont say, WOW! I say, oh looks good. I rarely shoot wider than a 25mm anyway, so having an 18 that will cover will be just fine. Plus on the bigger chip, and 18mm looks like a 16mm on MX
Hopefully the package deal with the Epic is attractive. Also, I too would probably take 5i's over MP's -- which actually start at 18mm. Those are the one set of lenses I didn't get to see at NAB, which was disappointing. Btw, the people at ZGC told me a while back that the 5 series covers S35 and I'm not sure I've seen any Epic owners actually test the 18mm, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the entire 5i line cover 5k. They were developed long after the 4 series so again, it would not surprise me. Well, with the volume of Epics that will be released into the wild later this year (probably over 10,000) I think it would be smart for Cooke to take the 14, 16 and 18 and redesign them slightly in order to cover Epic 5k. It's a pain in the ass, but they are going to lose so many sales (and rentals) to MP's, UP's or Leicas because those lenses fully the Epic sensor across all focal lengths.
Optimo went back and adjusted the 16-42 rouge to fully cover 5k ... if Cooke is smart they'll do the same.
Well, that's just one man's opinion
Anthony
