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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon uncaged...

Looks good, no we definitely need to see some R3D grabs...hehehe. T2.8 @ 1250ISO. Awesome.
 
Andrew Benz said:
OK Chris... I am not trying to turn this into a pissing contest but I have had more than one person of significance point directly to your post as proof that the Dragon was not ready for primetime so don't shoot the messenger.
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er, it isn't out yet, so why would anyone expect it to be ready for primetime or anything else?
When it is ready it will be released and it will be ready.

This is exactly why Red have people trying it out now, to catch any last minute things.

Seems straightforward to me.

Freya
 
Brook Willard said:
Heh, nope. It's a cell phone shot. You can see the Dragon on sticks in the bottom of frame.
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Well that's a relief. It seemed pretty blown out to me but I didn't want to sound negative just in case. It will be cool to see what the Dragon did see in that scene.
 
You can be negative about it, if its not good. But good call for asking if the picture was taken on DRAGON. hehehe :-)

Andy Roberts said:
Well that's a relief. It seemed pretty blown out to me but I didn't want to sound negative just in case. It will be cool to see what the Dragon did see in that scene.
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Asif Limbada said:
You can be negative about it, if its not good. But good call for asking if the picture was taken on DRAGON. hehehe :-)
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I generally agree that honest feedback is good... but if I had just bled and sweat for months and years to bring a product out, I think it would be painful to be barraged with negativity. So just out of respect for Red's hard work, I would refrain from public negativity in this case. But of course this is all theoretical since Dragon will not disappoint and that was an iPhone image. It was the strong horizontal aspect ration that fooled me for a bit. :)
 
Robert Ruffo New said:
Yes I am saying MX is "more than enough".
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Not sure if it is resolution, or size, but even when scaled to 1080p, nothing looks as good as IMAX. Until RED equals, or exceeds, IMAX I want more resolution and a larger sensor. When the Dark Knight switches from the opening IMAX scene to 35mm, its pretty jarring. The opening is so clean and sharp even at 1080p. Of course in a real IMAX theater it was even more impressive. Then there is Baraka, Grand Canyon Adventure, and Samsara. The latter being shot on 70mm and all three look better than anything I have seen from MX, or any other camera system, even when scaled to 1080p.

I loved my 4k M and my 5k MX, but I anxiously await the 6k from Dragon and look forward to the eventual 9k full frame or whatever it may become. So some of us do want more resolution. My motto is when good enough isn't.
 
RED DRAGON

RED DRAGON

Hi,

In the left hand corner at the bottom of the LCD on the picture of Dragon shooting you can see a small red ;film camera' icon...Does that means RED DRAGON will come with the stills option also and be the perfect DSMC camera....

Just wondering when can we have some R3D grabs...

Harcharan
 
Harcharan Singh said:
Hi,

In the left hand corner at the bottom of the LCD on the picture of Dragon shooting you can see a small red ;film camera' icon...Does that means RED DRAGON will come with the stills option also and be the perfect DSMC camera....

Just wondering when can we have some R3D grabs...

Harcharan
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noticed that as well and was wondering the same thing....
 
Harcharan Singh said:
Hi,

In the left hand corner at the bottom of the LCD on the picture of Dragon shooting you can see a small red ;film camera' icon...Does that means RED DRAGON will come with the stills option also and be the perfect DSMC camera....
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At the very least, I believe that icon in the lower left is where playback is controlled now... vs. the top left "play arrow"
 
Andrew Huse said:
I got an e-mail from Nar Levoni asking me to upgrade to Dragon. I don't feel comfortable dropping $10K on a product that I haven't even seen yet.
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If one hasn't already signed up for the upgrade yet, I suspect they will see so many images between now and the time their number comes up after finally signing up that they will become sick and tired of everyone with the upgrade in hand showing off THEIR great images. '-)
 
Andrew Huse said:
I got an e-mail from Nar Levoni asking me to upgrade to Dragon. I don't feel comfortable dropping $10K on a product that I haven't even seen yet.
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i believe they asked you to get in line for the upgrade...nobody is paying anything before the upgrade is actually happening....nobody is asking you to drop 10k right now....this is not kickstarter...
 
Oh thank god, this is a huuuge relief. I just got off the phone with Steinway. My order for the piano hasent been cancelled yet. But I do need to make a decision if I'm getting dragon very soon. They can't hold it for me for very long.
 
Brook Willard said:
Say, that test rings a bell! And what a perfect location for a resolution/dynamic range test, too...

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Hah, way off topic but what phone did you take that with? My phone camera isn't great, but that looks pretty nice.
 
Joseph Coleman said:
I don't understand how the histogram and stop lights are not showing any clipping at all!! If thats the case then Dragon is un-real!
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I think it is that good. That's what I've heard. If Graemme can nail perfect skin tones out of the box/without fuss (currently, we need to fuss a little in post) then it will kill every other camera out there. I'm glad I didn't recently buy an Alexa.
 
Apologies if this has been answered already, but if we trade in our Scarlet for Epic and upgrade to Dragon, will our camera have the new fan system, OLPF and any other minor improvements that have come along in the last couple years?

Looking forward...thank you.

PCG
 
PC Greene said:
Apologies if this has been answered already, but if we trade in our Scarlet for Epic and upgrade to Dragon, will our camera have the new fan system, OLPF and any other minor improvements that have come along in the last couple years?
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The new DSMC Fan 2.0, both top and bottom, are an optional accessory and not part of the upgrade.

The Dragon upgrade however will be coming with a new IROLPF however.
 
Phil Holland said:
The new DSMC Fan 2.0, both top and bottom, are an optional accessory and not part of the upgrade.

The Dragon upgrade however will be coming with a new IROLPF however.
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with the new irolpf, will we not need hot mirror irnds anymore? Will it cause issues if we still use them with dragon?
 
Michael Patterson said:
with the new irolpf, will we not need hot mirror irnds anymore? Will it cause issues if we still use them with dragon?
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Nothing is "truly" known at this point other than previously mentioned much improved IR protection.

It's actually one of those things I'm most excited to test out on Dragon.
 
Andrew Huse said:
I got an e-mail from Nar Levoni asking me to upgrade to Dragon. I don't feel comfortable dropping $10K on a product that I haven't even seen yet.
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This has been said dozens of times... Red is not collecting money until you actually ship your camera to them which doesn't start until September and if you're not in line yet, it is hard to say how long it will be. You can be sure that you will see a ton of images and footage (maybe even a movie) by the time money is actually transacted. So wait all you want... but the line is only getting longer.
 
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