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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DRAGON - ITS THE REAL DEAL !!!!

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Are you sure? I don't know for sure but their spec sheet has a 36x24mm coverage ratio of 1.5:1. Unless I am reading that wrong... that would certainly be enough. The Zeiss Cps are also FF capable.

Any lens you can mount on an EPIC will cover something... even a 16mm lens. The question is just how much.

I'm sure there will be a chart out soon with most of the lenses and how much of the sensor (how many K) they cover.

Unless someone has tried them, I'd request everyone refrain from guessing.

EDIT:

From Canon's website-

Canon’s brilliant series of Cinema Prime Lenses offer
spectacular 4K-image quality and a full-frame
imaging circle, in a lightweight and dust/water
resistant compact design, making them ideal for any
number of applications. This comprehensive line of lenses
includes five EF-mount models (CN-E14mm T3.1 L F,
CN-E24mm T1.5 L F, CN-E50mm T1.3 L F, CN-E85mm T1.3 L F,
and CN-E135mm T2.2 L F) with consistent form factors and
markings optimized for motion picture production.

Additionally,

Perfect on the family of Canon cinema cameras - EOS C100, EOS C300,
EOS C500 and EOS-1D C, these EF-mount lenses are also compatible
with Canon EOS DSLRs — including full-frame models like the
EOS-1D X, EOS 5D Mark III and cameras like the EOS 7D and EOS 60D
that use APS-C sized sensors.

Jim

António Fagundes said:
Yes. The cine lenses do not cover full frame.
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The Canon CN-E primes cover full frame 35mm and are based on their still lens brothers. Coatings and housings are all that's different.

The Canon CN-E zooms however do not cover FF35.

Like Jim said, if you've have any lens it will cover Dragon at some format.

Specifically, anything that covers Mysterium-X at 5K today will Cover Dragon at 5.5K. All S35 lenses will cover Dragon at 5K. On 6K coverage we'll be publishing that info soon. When that happens I have some additional notes that I'll add into the mix on that topic.
 
So a questions for the Red team. I noticed that the 6k 100fps shots were all at 17:1 compression. Will this be the best compression we can shoot at, at those frame rate/frame size? or is that a limiting factor of the older SSD's?
 
Using my Epic MX today at the new Echo Park lake made me reflect on how long I've had this thing now. Honestly, I'm perfectly happy with what I've got in my hands - of course previously only unthinkable. Just so much feeling in this thing. Artists talk about tools that just get out of your way - I feel like this camera lets me do that without saying "if only this thing could..."

That being said - I'm still upgrading to Dragon because I always love seeing what's just around the corner and experimenting with new things. I don't doubt that I could probably put another ten years on this cam without changes, but because this is such a great tool it has helped me to afford this "hop-up" Dragon.

Hot Rods don't usually pay for themselves unless you're a race winner. Red just gives me that extra edge that helps me afford the expense and keep growing as an artist and technician.
 
The Canon CINE Primes DO cover full frame. The Canon Cine ZOOMS...do not.

António Fagundes said:
Yes. The cine lenses do not cover full frame.
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I have to say, I am SO excited for Dragon. The Incredible LOW-LIGHT blows my mind. The DR. The slow-mo. The sharpness 6K gives us. The extra "life" this sensor breathes into full frame glass. It's a very exciting time to be a film maker. I feel like we have very few excuses now. I feel proud to be part of this revolution. It looks...more and more...like I'll be getting an Epic before the Summer is out, and I'm looking forward to a chance to upgrade to Dragon...as soon as I am able.

Mark....thanks for sharing...and caring (as someone else so elegantly said).
 
lol, just watched the 1920x960 version of Mark's video downloaded from Vimeo.

Was too busy reading the numbers and looking for technical details before to notice it's a genuine Toia piece.

I know a lot of you 'got' that aspect of it before I did, but if you haven't already, watch the 1920x960 version without reading the text or analyzing anything. Being able to just sit back and enjoy the imagery in this 'test footage' says a lot to me, about the quality of the camera and the guy behind it.

And if after that you're still in doubt about the path your future sensor use should take, simply refer to those blokes you can trust, 'The Beasts Of Bourbon', for expert guidance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IR5DykkpnE
 
Toia, does 17:1 at 1080 (presumably 2k), look as good as vimeo makes it look or is it... uhh... getting vimeo'd (the process that makes vimeo videos look magically noise free)?
 
Okay, this should be obvious - but I made the obvious mistake of watching it on my Macbook pro retina.

Make sure you watch in FullHD on a decent Television _ NOT A MACBOOK PRO, and make sure you watch it in FULL HD - NOT Vimeo SD... It's a huge disservice to yourself if you do. Maybe not obvious to those in a hurry like I often am...

GREAT FREAKING STUFF.
 
Mike P. said:
Toia, does 17:1 at 1080 (presumably 2k), look as good as vimeo makes it look or is it... uhh... getting vimeo'd (the process that makes vimeo videos look magically noise free)?
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Download the original .mov file and see for yourself. ;)
 
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