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Arri 65mm digital camera

Christoffer Glans said:
Might be the first digital camera that Christopher Nolan uses. He's gone towards 65mm more and more in his films and this might just be the camera to win him over to digital. Depends on the image quality though.



A 65mm sensor is competitive enough. I don't think people really understand this. Look at Nolan's movies.
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since they're stitching together their usual 35mm sensors…image quality will look the same…I'm guessing
 
Glen Powell said:
Not sure I understand Erich Roland - are you saying that all 'pro' cameras should be 4:3? Why? I am a pro / commercial shooter (meaning I derive 100% of my income from shooting) and 95% of my jobs are 16:9. A 4:3 sensor would be a step back for me, and I would hazard a lot of other DP's.
65mm & anamorphic are both niche formats - together it doesn't get any niche -ier.
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To me "Pro" means options. When designing a new sensor how much more expensive would it make a system to have a slightly larger vertical sensor for those that want to shoot anamorphic or some other format? Arri put it in their hi-end cameras for some reason.

Every lens projects a round image out the rear and we waste a significant amount of that image into the black non-recorded area beyond the 16x9 frame. Media is taking off in different directions with multi-format needs and a 4x3 seems a no brainer for sensor size, or even make it square and use whatever part of the sensor you need. I shoot a lot of one-off projects for museum films etc and they are always looking for as odd size format for multi-screen etc. Seems to me like an obvious progression in the camera business and shouldn't cost much more and make our cameras adaptable to Professional needs. If all you want is 16x9 than that's all you record, it should be that simple.

I probably shoot more then 95% in 16x9 but if 4x3 was always there as an option... then when an idea comes up I suspect it would get used a lot more in different and creative ways.
 
dio Zafi said:
since they're stitching together their usual 35mm sensors…image quality will look the same…I'm guessing
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Where did you get such information? It's not stitched, it's a brand new sensor with the size about three times of the Alexa sensor.
 
Michel Hafner said:
So it's basically Alexa pixels but more of them in a different aspect ratio. Dragon remains competitive and in the same ball park. So far Arri catches up to Dragon but does not present something next generation Red will have to catch up with.
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Yeah, this is using the same 8.25um pixels as the other Alexa's, just more of them.

David Mullen ASC said:
Personally it seems that FF35 should be the next leap in sensor size, and there are more lenses to cover that format than 65mm. But as a specialty camera, 65mm sounds cool, would be fun to shoot.
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FF35 has arrived as well! The 1.50:1 mode has a diagonal of 42.8, just a hair under full frame 43.3, and provides a resolution of 4320 x 2880. That's about 66% (exactly 65.8%) more resolution than Open Gate XT. More than enough for reframing and post stabilization.

Here's the info:

Alternatively, the ALEXA 65 will support two cropped recording modes; 1.78:1 (5120 x 2880) and 1.50:1 (4320 x 2880). In these lower resolution modes the camera generates less data. The ALEXA 65 therefore has the flexibility to support a variety of production requirements and workflow needs.


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Jarred Land said:
heh heh heh.
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By that, should I be assuming - "Watch this space, we are not even started yet". --- 645 ?? Hassleblad and Mamiya lenses to become a lot more valueable on eBay ??

We live in interesting times. Oh well. My SI2K may still fill an interesting heritage niche.
 
If there is something big coming, will it be upgradable?

If there is a large sensor coming, will there be an option to have a lens adapter (from mid-format to ff or s35) and use it like the Dragon right now? So "two in one", or endless options in one... ;o) I guess all current lens mounts will fit with a plate to the larger one. (Mid-format Motions Mounts sounds cool: MMM.)

(Somehow I do not really expect an answer right now, funny isn't it?)
 
David Mullen ASC said:
Personally it seems that FF35 should be the next leap in sensor size, and there are more lenses to cover that format than 65mm. But as a specialty camera, 65mm sounds cool, would be fun to shoot.
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VistaVision has always been my favorite format. When Red Dragon was announced and got me closer to that I got "all the feels". It's been a format used more or less for special purposes lately as it's more expensive to deal with overall, but in the VFX world I was swimming in early on it was an alarmingly useful tool. The two cameras I had access to long ago were both massive beasts, but I loved them. They used rehoused Leica and Nikon glass and created some really lovely images.

In fact, the entire reasons I first looked into those now pricey Isco 1.5X Anamorphic lenses was to use on a project that was shot S35 Anamorphic and we used them on a Fries VistaVision camera to shoot some material on a tarmac and then later I was asked to do some timelapse work on a *gasp* 1Ds and 1Ds MKII, well before DSLRs were shooting video.

As a format it solves much of everybody's needs in terms of a larger sensor, 4:3 sensor, etc.... But we'll see exactly where this goes from here. As much as 65mm 5-perf is a exciting something in the realm of VistaVision as a format would be more exciting for me personally.

Dragon's nearly that and that's given me a lot of what I'm looking for. Shooting 6K 2:1 right now is hot tasty biscuits all the time.
 
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