Arri 65mm digital camera

[Mark L. Pederson]

Isn't Panavison also working on a 65mm sensor 6K camera?

According to a few insiders I know - not any more. They do already have the lenses - 70mm with internal motors.

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

It's possible for certain things it'd be a good rental item. But if the stock Alexa is $60K, I'd bet the 65mm Arri will be about twice as expensive.

And I bet you will NEVER be able to buy it. I expect a Panavision and IMAX announcement soon.

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

I also tend to think the file sizes will be fairly intimidating, particularly if they hit ProRes 444 8K.

The prototype is 6K.

 

[Hugues Dagallier]

And I bet you will NEVER be able to buy it. I expect a Panavision and IMAX announcement soon.

Do you bet or are you sure ?

I really hope you are wrong. I've never liked the idea that a painter must rent his brush to work, even when the brush costs $500K ;-)

 

[Glen Powell]

Do you bet or are you sure ?

I really hope you are wrong.

Well - all the arguments are moot, or partially moot; since there is a dearth of lenses available that will cover the format. Scarcity = high prices, high prices = not many outside of rental will be able to buy for many years into the future... if ever.

Unless of course someone is sitting on crates of 1980's Sovscope 70 lenses?

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

I really hope you are wrong.

I'm not wrong.

 

[Hugues Dagallier]

I'm not wrong.

Maybe it will be buyable too. Panavision and IMAX will maybe do their own version as the former did with the F35 (Genesis) and the latter did with the Phantom 65 (3D 65mm camera used for some scenes in Transformers 4)...

 

[Stirling Bancroft]

Panavision's Primo 70's are advertised on the front page of their website.

 

[Brian Merlen]

And I bet you will NEVER be able to buy it. I expect a Panavision and IMAX announcement soon.

Cuz of price point or it not being sold to the public? Will it be a panavision rental only deal?

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

Cuz of price point or it not being sold to the public? Will it be a panavision rental only deal?

Ask ARRI

 

[Glen Powell]

Panavision's Primo 70's are advertised on the front page of their website.

Yeah - but you can't buy them, only rent them. The whole 65mm format will be a rental game for big budget films.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

I'm still ready to buy that EPIC-645...

Same here, from the moment it was announced, and because I miss too much my MF cameras... And for the same reasons that after going MF I never felt happy with 35mm Still cameras...

I have an almost certain filling that it would be exactly the same with a 645 MF Epic... I would drop the S35mm sensor in a nanosecond for more then one reason for the day I shoot.

 

[Brian Merlen]

Ask ARRI

I tried that already, all the rumors center around an offhollywood connection from nofilmschool wonder who it is?

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

The whole 65mm format will be a rental game for big budget films.

Initially ... yes

 

[Björn Benckert]

There is quite a few lenses that covers that sensor and host more than enough quality and cost almost nothing. Medium format still lenses that has been left on dusty shelves together with the analog mid format still cameras.... To modify them for cinema use is actually quite simple. So to get a really good set of 65mm lenses together should not cost much more than buying a set of low cost 35mm lenses.

The bigger the sensor the less important is the lens sharpness etc 65mm to 35mm the ratio is about 1/4....

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

Medium format still lenses that has been left on dusty shelves together with the analog mid format still cameras.... To modify them for cinema use is actually quite simple. So to get a really good set of 65mm lenses together should not cost much more than buying a set of low cost 35mm lenses.

I'd venture to say that buying up some medium format lenses now - would be a pretty smart move.

 

[Brian Merlen]

Arri is telling me the cam is rental only, ugh what a drag

 

[Glen Powell]

There is quite a few lenses that covers that sensor and host more than enough quality and cost almost nothing. Medium format still lenses that has been left on dusty shelves together with the analog mid format still cameras.... To modify them for cinema use is actually quite simple. So to get a really good set of 65mm lenses together should not cost much more than buying a set of low cost 35mm lenses.

The bigger the sensor the less important is the lens sharpness etc 65mm to 35mm the ratio is about 1/4....

I'd venture to say that buying up some medium format lenses now - would be a pretty smart move.

I've got a couple sets of Med format Mamiya glass in the equipment room... haven't used them in years. Not the greatest lenses, but could maybe be rehoused?

 

[Michael Dalton]

Arri is telling me the cam is rental only, ugh what a drag

You know if Arri is talking 65mm, then RED is probably testing it. Remember that roadmap a long time ago, look how much of it is here. Eliminate the 3k as we've grown too much for 3k anymore. It leave two left.

NAB next year should be interesting.

No, it's not only a rental game. I can see shooting 9k IMAX 65mm wildlife stuff. Was it a coincidence that IMAX and Red were together at last years NAB? I think not.

 

[Brian Merlen]

28K bring it on! nah but really I'd be happy with large formats even if it was a mere 4 or 6k... (mere is a relative term lol)