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ALEXA MINI vs GEMINI

Nick Gardner said:
Having worked with both cameras recently, the differences between the two are trivial. Until you get to low light, then the Gemini is hands down winner.

Nick
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You are saying the rolloff and latitude in the highlights is the same on the Gemini as on the Alexa and the color hue remains the same regardless of over and under exposure ?
I would like to see this. Not my experience, but always glad to be proved wrong.
 
You are saying the rolloff and latitude in the highlights is the same on the Gemini as on the Alexa and the color hue remains the same regardless of over and under exposure ?
I would like to see this. Not my experience, but always glad to be proved wrong.
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I'm saying that if both cameras are used to shoot a shot worth shooting, the differences are negligible. Do they look exactly the same? no. The gemini has what appears to be nicer highlight rolloff than previous red cameras, but I haven't done any scientific tests.

Nick
 
yes nick, no substantial difference between the two cameras, in normal everyday conditions. Difficult, no one can distinguish, including the roll off unless you do a very specific and targeted test.
Substantially, ALEXA has something more than Gemini in the highlights, at the same aperture about 1/2 stop ... then in the low light is less noisy and takes the advantage ... if you had to fix Gemini to the same dynamic response of ALexa, Gemini would win because of the dual ISO.
There is no DOP that wants to see the image overexposed, but it is easier to need a camera with less noisy images in the absence of light. This happens every single day of shooting.
In this case Gemini and Monstro are better.
Needless to discuss color, there are people who prefer ALEXA and people who prefer RED or other brands.


Forget Burkhart, keep repeating the same things, for another without any help for anyone, I do not know how much experience he can have, I do not believe much, maybe none. But happy to deny me, if at least I saw something of yours.
 
I would honestly go with the Alexa Mini. The Gemini is a great camera but the Mini fits my shooting style.
 
I don't think comparing a $19.5k camera to a $52k camera is a fair comparison.

Besides the obvious. One shoots 5k raw and has better low light and cost more than half as much.

You are better up comparing it to Monstro that is in the same price class.
 
I've shot with both a bunch lately, I disagree that the Mini has more highlight range, maybe a smoother rolloff but that can easily be emulated with a LUT. I actually think the bigger difference is in the "Halation" filter on the sensor. You can also emulate this with Kippertie OLPFs or a 1/16" Hollywood Black Magic filter. There is a difference with color, at least straight out of camera. You can match them for sure but the Gemini takes more work. The DXL LUT has helped a lot in this regard, at least as a starting place for better color. I do find the lack of real 4K limiting on the mini, and my Helium is defintely sharper than the Gemini, but projected on a movie screen it's all negligible.
 
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