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Wifi +1 module, Syndicated.

Björn Benckert

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I don't have much knowhow around data networking and other technical stuff but sometimes I get these ideas and picture things as possible... This time it was FoolControl that cough my mind. I been looking at FoolControl, OffHollywood's Hotlink and the redlink module and thinking it's really fantastic stuff, but... Then off course I can not help to think why is the wifi bridge not inside the camera...

So as I'm always running/stressing around the office and hardly have no time for anything as always, I turn to one of my talented coworkers.... In this case Mattias got in the line of fire... I kind of told him that there must be some space in the camera and those wifi bridge boards are not that big and all we need is power and a connector to the CTR port, how hard can that be?

Well it turned out that Mattias who is a wizard around anything difficult or close to impossible had to sit and configure cryptic Chinese wifi cards for two weeks straight. and then also sort the close to impossible logistics of actually making the stuff fit in the +1 module.

But last night he got it done and it actually works as a charm. :yesnod:

To get there I'm positive we went pretty darn far beyond the border of having a valid warranty on the camera.

So from what I learned I strongly advice you, do not try this at home. It's a far better idea to just to buy a hotlink from Mark or getting a redlink or any other off the shelf / outside camera solutions.

Still after all the struggle I just wanted to show you guys that it's was possible and I have no doubts that RED will put something like this in some upcoming module.


And my thoughts of Foolcontrol... well I think it's so freaking good that it should be included in every red camera ever sold. So possibly Mikael can give Jarred a bulk discount :)
 
Hehe ! Good job beardless man !

Not sure about loosing my warranty part but love the idea as I always hoped +1 and REDLink modules could be combined :-)

Video link for iOS :
https://vimeo.com/112315766
 
This is awesome! Love it Bjorn. +1 Module 2.0 ;)

I think RED should manufacture a 2nd version with an antennae on top to reach at least 300ft range. This is an excellent idea Bjorn and kudos for pulling it off.
 
Nice Bjorn , myself I don't have the courage to do this (meow)

However an even more prime candidate for this, IMO. is the most useless of modules the lame "adapter module"!

Surely RED can merge the functionality (Lol ) of the module adapter with Redlink unit , combining 2 modules into one and still allow throughput for other accessory modules. That way you could have wifi connectivity whilst still having a V mount!

I was going to start a thread on this but forgot until I saw this thread .

So come on RED make it happen , either +I or the Adapter will be fine by me !
 
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I'd love to see this with wireless video transmission in a new +1/Wifi module as well!

Imagine using the HDMI feed from the +1 module and being able to send it out to either a second monitor / evf, or wirelessly to an iPad or computer. That, plus all the features of foolcontrol would be amazing!
 
Great job!

Mike Garrick said:
However an even more prime candidate for this, IMO. is the most useless of modules the lame "adapter module"!
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Haha, I was thinking the same, and I'm waiting for an used one to try to put an nyrius pro inside. I'm tired to link all of theses video and power wires on the gimbal.
 

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I don't know is true, just a rumor from a film set, that ARRI have patent for wireless lens control, and for a company RED to make it must have a licens from ARRI. .. But users can put together whatever we need, like a big LEGO. I like not to viod my camera warranty, so having maybe an AUX-Module that is shielded to protect camera, but still have electrical and data connectors available for custom electronics.
 
What wifi adapter did you use Bjorn? I couldn't hear it properly. I thought I heard you say an over the counter one, but you don't mention which one.

OH, and does this render the aux power output on the +1 useless?
 
Mike P. said:
What wifi adapter did you use Bjorn? I couldn't hear it properly. I thought I heard you say an over the counter one, but you don't mention which one.

OH, and does this render the aux power output on the +1 useless?
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The +1 power still works fine. the card hardly takes any power. This card was actually far more costly than it needed to be. We went trough a few different cards and now I actually trough the same supplier found a card that is just whats needed and comes with far less hassle to set up. As the card that is in the camera now seriously took a good programer 2 weeks to sort out all the settings as that card had so many odd little functions in it, it was more like a little computer than a wifi board with built in ftp server and other stupid stuff. But we want to keep this supplier unknown at least for a little while until we decided if we should take this and make something of it, as I got a new little idea to make a super low cost and low weight little 3D printed Wifi unit with the new card that we could actually sell. That board cost about the same or less than the lemo connector and together with these, it could be pretty nice:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hubsan-X4-H107-Micro-Quad-260mah-Upgrade-Lipo-Battery-H107-A05-RC-Quadcopter-UK-/330943845131?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item4d0dca530b

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hubsan-X4-Micro-Quadcopter-Replacement-USB-Battery-Charger-H107-A06-Lead-Cable-/131133710538?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item1e882da0ca

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v27/1052547117_1/Lemo_compatible_00B_mini_2_3_4pin.jpg_250x250.jpg

I'm sure that little battery would last more than for a full days shooting and the unit could easily be made so small so it could sit as as a little bandage on the side of the camera. Or possibly be 3D molded so that it fits snuggly fitted in between the ribs of the camera body on the blind side or right under/on the SSD module.

It would be possible to make smaller than a keyring and light enough to ship with normal mail.
 
Michael Winokur said:
There might be space for it to live in here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Switronix-V...999?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418a6201a7

And then power routing is easy.
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Yes most likely. But everyone have different power solutions.

So now you got me thinking, possibly the coolest thing would be to just provide a pre programed wifi board together with: a little foldable wire antenna, lemo cable, and flying lead power cable and a little diagram how to soldier it all together.

Such thing could be milled into or just hidden in just about anything like baseplates, topplates, batteryplates and so on. all in all it would need about 3cm x 2cm x 0.5cm of space.

Would be fun to see what people did with it, like a little DIY kit.

Think that could be done for less than 50 bucks with shipping.
 
What you want isn't something like the Nyrius Pro, what you want is an H264 IP server. That's going to be the real breakthrough wifi product. Then you can get video preview on any smartphone since every phone/computer can receive MP4/H264 streams over IP.
 
Michael Winokur said:
I like that idea. We would certainly give it a try. Now if someone could just integrate timecode via wifi!
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I might be wrong but some sort of TC comes trough with Foolcontrol, no? But may I ask, why would you need timecode?
 
Björn Benckert said:
Yes most likely. But everyone have different power solutions.

So now you got me thinking, possibly the coolest thing would be to just provide a pre programed wifi board together with: a little foldable wire antenna, lemo cable, and flying lead power cable and a little diagram how to soldier it all together.

Such thing could be milled into or just hidden in just about anything like baseplates, topplates, batteryplates and so on. all in all it would need about 3cm x 2cm x 0.5cm of space.

Would be fun to see what people did with it, like a little DIY kit.

Think that could be done for less than 50 bucks with shipping.
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Sounds like a great idea. I may finally have use for the module adapter gathering dust in the cupboard.
 
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