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VOGUE + RED+ Bottega Veneta NEW EXPOSURE CONTEST

Jarred Land said:
Retarded contest laws blocking.
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Surprised you can't do better than that Jarred; run the contest under a flag of convenience company registered in Caymans or USVI or something?

Mike
 
Mike 'Fireman' Ross said:
Very interesting observation, and something I already knew; years ago I made some useful lighting discoveries/experiments running around like a crazy thing firing off a flashgun at odd angles and odd moments... Ketch is definitely on to something!

Mike
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BINGO!!

Just because you are so dam smart Mike and it was a pleasure meting you at the Redparty... I let you a little secret of why I said what I said, with some of our back grounds been the Colosseum, the Fountain of Trevi, and other HUGE monuments in Rome, I =immediately discovered that the best way to get that size of structures properly illuminated was with the use of Flash, while I get my main subjects lighted up with continuos lighting nice and soft... MOre to come, you guys are going to love the BTS videos and pics of the shootings in Rome... ;)
 
So interested in this! I get out of school may 8th and think I might actually spend waking nights creating something to submit!
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
BINGO!!

Just because you are so dam smart Mike and it was a pleasure meting you at the Redparty... I let you a little secret of why I said what I said, with some of our back grounds been the Colosseum, the Fountain of Trevi, and other HUGE monuments in Rome, I =immediately discovered that the best way to get that size of structures properly illuminated was with the use of Flash, while I get my main subjects lighted up with continuos lighting nice and soft... MOre to come, you guys are going to love the BTS videos and pics of the shootings in Rome... ;)
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It was a pleasure to meet you too Ketch, and.. snap! Likewise my experiments involved illuminating large expanses of darkness, although it my case the first experiments were conducted underground, in old tunnels and caves; very tricky to light.

Mike
 
I think its important that contestants have managed expectations about this. first things first- This is a great opp to win the camera. But a mentorship? That is a joke! Its just a marketing tool.. If management artists likes your work, they are going to represent you, not mentor you.. And if you havent shot editorial for major fashion magazines, they are not going to represent you no matter how "good" your photos are.. Another thing, the photography director at vogue, as at all fashion magazines, has no say at all when it comes to picking photographers, NONE . At best, they can choose a photog to shoot little insert pics of civilians, not models, or if its a model, its a reportage shot of the model in the offices of vogue... and once you shoot that type of pic, you will never be asked to shoot a fashion spread.. I say all of this form experience shooting for major fashion mags around the world. The fashion industry is more competitive than the motion picture biz, and the rates paid to photogs are much higher than to "DP's. When I was shooting back in the 90's, the rate to shoot JCrew was 3500 per day, plus expenses. Talbots, a lesser catalogue was 2500.and these were 8 hour days..Gap was 7500 per day. Magazines paid by the page.. the better the magazine the less it paid.. The crappier mags would pay 750 to 1500 per page, and on average, you shot 6 pages in a day.. If the pages werent printed, you got 200 for the day plus your ac expense.. At Vogue, its all up to Anna Wintour, and nobody else, just as its all up to Franca Sozzani at Italian Vogue.. So go for the camera, because there is nothing better than the Epic as a prize.. Cant wait for 21megapixel dragon- because many clients are very hesitant... I have been lucky in convincing my clients, but its always because a full motion film is being shot at the same time.. No way could I show up with my epic to shoot stills only...Once we have the 6k sensor, the playing field will be level!!
 
What are my chances if I submit a fashion project with only male models ? :-D
 
Nathaniel Kramer said:
I think its important that contestants have managed expectations about this. first things first- This is a great opp to win the camera. But a mentorship? That is a joke! Its just a marketing tool.. If management artists likes your work, they are going to represent you, not mentor you.. And if you havent shot editorial for major fashion magazines, they are not going to represent you no matter how "good" your photos are.. Another thing, the photography director at vogue, as at all fashion magazines, has no say at all when it comes to picking photographers, NONE . At best, they can choose a photog to shoot little insert pics of civilians, not models, or if its a model, its a reportage shot of the model in the offices of vogue... and once you shoot that type of pic, you will never be asked to shoot a fashion spread.. I say all of this form experience shooting for major fashion mags around the world. The fashion industry is more competitive than the motion picture biz, and the rates paid to photogs are much higher than to "DP's. When I was shooting back in the 90's, the rate to shoot JCrew was 3500 per day, plus expenses. Talbots, a lesser catalogue was 2500.and these were 8 hour days..Gap was 7500 per day. Magazines paid by the page.. the better the magazine the less it paid.. The crappier mags would pay 750 to 1500 per page, and on average, you shot 6 pages in a day.. If the pages werent printed, you got 200 for the day plus your ac expense.. At Vogue, its all up to Anna Wintour, and nobody else, just as its all up to Franca Sozzani at Italian Vogue.. So go for the camera, because there is nothing better than the Epic as a prize.. Cant wait for 21megapixel dragon- because many clients are very hesitant... I have been lucky in convincing my clients, but its always because a full motion film is being shot at the same time.. No way could I show up with my epic to shoot stills only...Once we have the 6k sensor, the playing field will be level!!
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I can definitely see where you're coming from, but here is my 2 cents.

I see this as a great opportunity for the younger crowd of aspiring filmmakers, most of you guys on here already make a living doing what you love to do, and that is awesome! That is my end all goal someday as well, to make a living doing what I love. But for me, this contest truly seems like a gift. It probably seems like an AMAZING contest to many people as well for 3 reasons.
1) It is outstanding motivation to get out there every day to work on and learn a whole lot more about the art.
2) If you lose, you still win because you are left with most likely some amazing new content and knowledge that you didn't have before.
3) If you win... (obviously the $10,000 and Epic package is amazing) but even the mentorship would be amazing for the younger crowd. It's a chance to really get out there and gain even more experience that you didn't have before!


Again, im just saying, don't down the mentorship, because the truth is it probably wouldn't do anything for a lot of people. But for some, this could be life changing.
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
One strong suggestion...

Don't try to do just Flash exposure....

Don't try to do just Continuos light exposure...


DO BOTH MIXED IN TOGETHER... You'll be surprise as Hell of what comes out on the exposed frames... I'll say no more...[/IMG]
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STOP TEASING MAJESTRO and publish those tutorials on your technique for doing stills with the Epic, please ^^
 
Jarred,

I like this promotion. If anyone you know, needs help doing a fashion project, I'm open to help.

This was my business in New York 3 years ago, http://digitaltechnyc.com, and I shot fashion and fashion catalog in NYC for over 10 years, http://vonthomas.com

In any case, I love it!!

Von
 
Dominik Muench said:
STOP TEASING MAESTRO and publish those tutorials on your technique for doing stills with the Epic, please ^^
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He he, trying really hard to find time to do quick edits on the Brazilian videos of the BTS stuff, and also trying to do couple videos here in Rome, just so busy, and still one man team... Need to rally start hiring an army in here... Even so the Facilities aren't ready nor will they be for some time....
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
just so busy, and still one man team... Need to rally start hiring an army in here...
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I'm up for it anytime lol
I have a swiss passport and speak a little italian, I always wanted to work in rome...I'd say id bring my Epic along as additional perks but ive seen that equipment room of yours and I doubt you need another camera.
 
Dominik Muench said:
I'm up for it anytime lol
I have a swiss passport and speak a little italian, I always wanted to work in rome...I'd say id bring my Epic along as additional perks but ive seen that equipment room of yours and I doubt you need another camera.
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He he, thanks for the offer Dominik much appreciated, but I really mean it, I do need to hire an Army of Industry Professionals, and I will start soon... ;)
 
Question,

Do we submit all of the photoshoots we have shot before, or do we do completely new stuff aimed specifically for this competition using RED cameras?

Sorry if this has been answered, didn't see it, could have overlooked.
 
Michael Millichamp said:
Question,

Do we submit all of the photoshoots we have shot before, or do we do completely new stuff aimed specifically for this competition using RED cameras?

Sorry if this has been answered, didn't see it, could have overlooked.
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All work done now or prior is fine, but of course needs to be done on RED CAMERAS... ;)
 
Michael Millichamp said:
Question,

Do we submit all of the photoshoots we have shot before, or do we do completely new stuff aimed specifically for this competition using RED cameras?

Sorry if this has been answered, didn't see it, could have overlooked.
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Can be either or... and doesn't need to be RED. The top 10 then are given RED camera loaners ( if they don't already have them ) to shoot a loosely guided project for the win.
 
Jarred Land said:
Can be either or... and doesn't need to be RED. The top 10 then are given RED camera loaners ( if they don't already have them ) to shoot a loosely guided project for the win.
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Awesome. Thanks Jarred. Im going to have some fun this weekend.
 
Jarred Land said:
Can be either or... and doesn't need to be RED. The top 10 then are given RED camera loaners ( if they don't already have them ) to shoot a loosely guided project for the win.
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No S$^%#, I absolutely tough this was RED only... ;)


I Love EPIC, but if I start shooting photos on the 80MP Medium Formats backs, then I'm sorry to say that EPIC will be at a disadvantage, not only for the pixel count, but for the Flash synchronization as well...

However if I could play, I would give it hard time no matter what form the shots of our EPIC... ;)
 
Jarred Land said:
Can be either or... and doesn't need to be RED. The top 10 then are given RED camera loaners ( if they don't already have them ) to shoot a loosely guided project for the win.
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Just curious and looking for more information. We are submitting photo portfolios to become one of the top 10 finalists who shoot the "loosely guided" project and a then a winner is selected from after that process? That's the idea right?
 
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