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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

VFS Inclino, Imperio, Origo News ??

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CVB said:
The plastics guy pushed out again... Heres the email verbatim:
"We have the tool for part 63 done. The tool for 62 and 64 only has ejector pin work left. I'll keep you posted as to when we will have parts for you."
I take that to mean we are a day or two out.. I'll keep you guys posted.
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What does it mean ? tool 62, 63 , 64 ?
 
Stephen Webb said:
And what about those of us that did order a D-Tap? What do we get :head_explode:
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A congratulations:thumbsup:

Curt has answered my question and is a fair response. I'll be adding a DTAP to my order but good to know that it will be able to work from the RED if need be, even though at a reduced performance.
 
Curt, thanks for the update and clarification on the power situation.

Really looking forward to getting mine once the new antennas are installed.
 
I used my follow focus today on a shoot and did not get good distance AT ALL off the current system. If I got more than 8-10ft away (line of sight), it seems like it would drop. Well, at least the motor would stop responding and the only way to get it working again was to unplug the dtap cable and turn off the impero. Now, when it did work, it worked very well. The best I can figure is that it was taped to the top of the RED and there might have been some kind of interference. Also, we were shooting in a metal "green" mobile home, so maybe the metal or some other wireless was the issue (come to think of it, we were right next to the airport, maybe that was the problem.)

We also had a bartec on set because of the trouble I was having with the follow focus. Here's what I noticed the difference was between the Bartec with a Haden motor and the Impero/Inclino. The Haden motor is probably 2x quieter. However, probably only a SUPER anal sound guy would complain about it-although it probably won't affect the audio. The Viewfactor is 10x+ easier to calibrate. To me, the difference is like using OSX's Terminal to copy and install a program an being able to just click one button that will do everything for you. For the viewfactor you just pres the CAL button and once it's done, you are ready to go. The bartec was a 3-5 minute setup for each lens (a big time waster when you make tons of lens changes.) And lastly, SIZE! The Bartec is SO much bigger. Considering that Viewfactor's receiver weighs probably 2-3 ounces, and the Bartec is I would say 1/4-1/2 a pound, that's a huge difference. The transmitter is also much nicer. Light, and you can stick it in your pocket easily, Try that with the Bartec.

Anyhow, I know I have just made tons of run on sentences, but after a 16 hour shoot where you are the AC and DIT, I just don't care.

BTW, a big thanks goes out to Curt and everyone at Viewfactor. He has done great support over the last few days and did a great job of answering a ton of my phone calls today (including one at 7AM his time this morning.) I wish him and Viewfactor the best of luck in being successful with their business.

Matthew
 
Airports usually have a radar system nearby, and that can interfere with any wireless system, so it's better to use wired control in that situation.

There are techniques to make wireless systems less susceptible to interference, but if you are using off-the-shelf modules (bluetooth etc.) the receiver design is fixed, so all you can do is use more transmit power or a more directional antenna to improve your signal-to-interference ratio. But in this kind of application, a higher gain antenna may be impractical; certainly more cumbersome in any case.
 
Humm... interesting. We were probably about 1/2 mile from the radar station, but I would guess that would still be close enough. I am hopefully going to use it again tomorrow on another shoot (not a steadcam shoot, so I can go wired if I need to.) so we'll see if it acts up like it did today. Of course, it may have just been how I had it on the RED and the lack of the new antenna.

Matthew
 
jbeale said:
Airports usually have a radar system nearby, and that can interfere with any wireless system, so it's better to use wired control in that situation.

There are techniques to make wireless systems less susceptible to interference, but if you are using off-the-shelf modules (bluetooth etc.) the receiver design is fixed, so all you can do is use more transmit power or a more directional antenna to improve your signal-to-interference ratio. But in this kind of application, a higher gain antenna may be impractical; certainly more cumbersome in any case.
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we are shooting at the airport for already one week, no problems with c-motion so far
 
CVB said:
Here's the issue... The Red one camera can supposedly supply about 1.5 amps but we were feeling a little reluctant to use that for powering the motors as we had to reduce the maximum acceleration and speed to a point where its very sluggish. I will go ahead and modify the firmware to allow the motors to run off the aux connector and enable high speed only when running a DTAP.
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or just get one of these:)

http://actionproducts.ch/apshop/cat...id=47&osCsid=9bf7f89160e0d677ba6164b48d92b23a
 
OK....I just added a few items including the D-Tap, Gear set and additional marking ring to my ordere but I was wanting to see if the 15mm rail adaptor will be included in with the package. I would like to use this on several different cameras.

This seems like it's been a hell of a journey but I actually think I'll see this thing shortly.
 
Matthew Rogers said:
The Viewfactor is 10x+ easier to calibrate. To me, the difference is like using OSX's Terminal to copy and install a program an being able to just click one button that will do everything for you. For the viewfactor you just pres the CAL button and once it's done, you are ready to go. The bartec was a 3-5 minute setup for each lens (a big time waster when you make tons of lens changes.)
Matthew
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If it takes you 3-5 minutes to calibrate a BarTech you are doing something wrong. While I agree auto-calibration is easier, I have seen 1AC's manually calibrate in 30 seconds or less. I have never worked on a movie and can do it in under a minute.

The receiver is 11 ounces. It's heavier because the housing is aluminum instead of plastic.

Jim Bartell
 
I have no issues calibrating my Bartech in under a minute...there is no doubt auto calibration is a better option, but the Bartech is not a big hassle.

Regarding power, though Jim we still cant calibrate with the camera on. We have to run thru our calibration process prior to turning on the camera. Not sure if the VF will have this same issue or not. Powering anything short of a start/stop device from the Red directly has never been an option for us, we always use the D-tap.
 
Just finished working with the Bartec for a week out on a runway and inside of a few planes. No issues inside or out. I was able to work over 50' away in the village inside a hanger while camera was inside the small jet isles, no sweat.

Setup does take a bit of time though. Its not difficult or too time consuming, but if you have multiple changes its an extra 20-30 sec every time. That really adds up. Especially for fast paced independent projects. Also, you have to manually calibrate rather than just a button press. This is important to note for jib moves because it requires the system to be lowered for more than just 5-10 seconds. I've been told that with Canon EOS on VF you simply swing the MB and swap.

Bartec has a nice dual marking system though.
 
Does the Impero ship with a 19mm mounting clamp - I can't see any reference to it in the manual, here or on VF site.

A Nano clamp looks about right but would need a male to male 1/4 -20 adapter - where to get that?

I know I saw something on this thread about mounting options but I can't find it.

I'd appreciate is someone can post the link.
 
Billy, yes the Inclino ships in a 19mm config. There is a 15mm sleeve included if you need to mount it on 15mm rods.

After doing some more testing today on another shoot, I don't think radar interfered any with the signal. There just seems to be some issue about it dropping the connection randomly and also a bug where it will calibrate, but then won't work and you have to calibrate again. I'm sure it's just a firmware bug that Curt hasn't found yet.

Matthew
 
billymc said:
A Nano clamp looks about right but would need a male to male 1/4 -20 adapter - where to get that?
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Impero doesn't ship with a 19mm ROD mount. Currently I'm planning on the Nano Clamp.

Any decent hardware store should have 1/4 -20 threaded rods. Worst case would be get a 1/4 -20 bolt and hacksaw off the head.
 
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