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The Big Mistake...

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Gunleik Groven said:
But that might be because he doesn't like the distribution model, he has his own... -:)

Not that that excludes 4k distribution.
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Of course its about his distribution model, but we talk about change to 4k; Sooner or later? I Think sooner.
 
If you look at films that were shot on larger film stocks like 2001, you can see where 1080p is not enough.

Kubrick used the higher resolving power of the (Cinerama?) format as a storytelling device. A lot of people who have only seen the film in SD or a 720p display complain that the film is slow, but to me the film is actually a little fast paced for the amount of detail and story in every shot. You need the longer cuts just to see what Kubrick is telling you visually (one detail that can be hard to make out is the shot of the flight attendants shoes labeled "grip shoes"; if you don't see this detail, you will not understand why everyone is walking so damn funny).

We need higher res formats...I just think so many of us consume our content on iPhones, YouTube, out of focus projectors in theaters, tv shows at 720p, etc. that we are used to dealing with images that don't quite hit the eye in the way high res photography does.

480p, 720p, and 1080p can tell a story, of course, but you have more limits in terms of what you can show and resolve in each shot. This effects the KIND of story you can tell.

2001 could not have been made in 1080p...it would be just a boring, slow film without all the little details Kubrick placed in every frame. :}
 
Ahhhhhhhh........did I mention before that Jim Jannard is a genius?

Yes, I did. And Yes, he is.

:)

Jim Jannard is my "Man of the Year".

MERRY CHRISTMAS JIM.
 
One of my clients is the NFL Network. We shoot every Giants/Jets game at the new Meadowlands Stadium. Three years ago 4x3 Beta SP. Two Years ago 16x9 DVCPro. Last year 16x9 XDCam HD. The network now has the ability to stream HDSDI live content from the practice facilities as well as their corporate headquarters - where we also stream live segments. Trust me when I tell you that I will introduct the Epic to everyone at the NFL including Rodger Goodell.
 
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Because it is as close as you are going to get to 4K for half of $10K.

Jim
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Stuck on this point, please correct me if I am wrong, but is this an indication of price point on the Epic-S/Scarlett?

And I second the point on making stuff worthwhile to watch. The footage may be shot on a 4K camera, but it don't mean squat if your story is worth less than the jumbo sized $10 bucket of popcorn you buy from the underpaid kid at the candy bar.

Here's hoping that Spiderman and The Hobbit (and whatever else is lucky enough to shoot on these cameras) not only have amazing qualities in cinematography, colour, lighting and a sprinkling of SFX but also a well crafted story that engages me.

Big hopes? Yup! That's what I look forward to "tomorrow". As well as the Epic-S/Scarlett branded #00006. :-)
 
Well, so much has been said that the only thing I can say is that our first HUGE project in Italy will be filmed in full
5K for 4K Finish, and this is a DocuFilm for the Italian most known and unknown beauties, so mainly TV, nonetheless
I fill that finishing up this project with nothing less then full 4K will be a Blossomy!!

4K is here alright ;)
 
big smiles all round....can't say anything else...
 
Jim Retar said:
I've said it a few times.... the day 4K takes off in the home is the day sports get shown in 4K. Sports networks hold the key to consumer purchasing power, when it comes to upgrading their TVs... not tv, not films.

Sorry if this sounds blunt.
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Not blunt at all... You make a very good point based on what has happened in recent history. SKY, one of the biggest broadcast platforms in the world, used SPORT, to great effect, as the driver for HD TV adoption. Now they are doing the same with S3D.... Soon they will be launching a second S3D channel. I have no doubt they will do the same with 4K....

One the other things that could happen is someone beats the traditional broadcaster to 4K distribution via the web, this would turn the broadcasting world on his head.... all it takes is someone to enable the technology for delivery and viewing... and I wonder who might be working on that.......
 
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Jim I'm sure you've thought long and hard about making Red Ray the next Blu Ray -i.e. the worldwide standard at a certain 4K resolution...could licensing the R3D codec to mass manufacturers be in the cards?
 
Jeremy Torrie said:
Jim I'm sure you've thought long and hard about making Red Ray the next Blu Ray -i.e. the worldwide standard at a certain 4K resolution...could licensing the R3D codec to mass manufacturers be in the cards?
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Sure...

Jim
 
Häakon said:
In the land of Hobbits and Spidermen and Aliens, of course there's absolutely no question you want to be working in 4K. I have a feeling even that number will increase before too long. But there are also a lot of people working on material that's not at that scale. I completely understand where Jim is coming from and I agree with the philosophy up and down... I just don't think the transition is going to happen as soon as he would like. Maybe I'll be proved wrong... and I'd love it if that's the case.
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The biggest mistakes I have made in business have been to underestimate the speed of change. Just sayin'.

Buckle up.
 
Jody Neckles said:
One the other things that could happen is someone beats the traditional broadcaster to 4K distribution via the web.... hmmm I wonder who that might be........
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Well, there's the 4K platform Google has developed over at YouTube... I don't think they are just playing around over there.
 
Jeremy Torrie said:
could licensing the R3D codec to mass manufacturers be in the cards?
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You think you'll have to buy a Redrocket to decode Red stream on your 4K TV ?
 
Redcode RGB will be for RGB what redcode has been for RAW... I guess.

Probably wavelet, at least not mpeg based compression + a bit of Graemes pixie sauce, and will be able to encode from other RGB material...

... if memory serves me from the first presentation...
 
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