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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Scarlet...

what kind of info?
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Off the top of my head, shipping volume, from the initial production to the full ramp up quanity. Another would be when you might issue S/Ns for stage 2, so we know where we stand in line. In the end this will help us, waiting, better estimate deliver time once they actually start shipping.

Does EPIC ship with an AC adaptor? Any info on the bottom plates?

Of course more info on timelapse, like exposure time.
 
I'm expecting two things:

1. 2 or 3 major upgrades amongst a few minor ones and probably one of them will blow us away. That's usual with Jim.

2. Price's going up again. I know Jim made it very clear when he said Red creates professional tools, but unfortunately that makes life a bit more difficult for us with limited budgets.

I still miss a "starter" camera with the very basics for filming that replaces all the extras for more work on the field and later on the computer. Something like a 7D with no line skipping, no moire and redcode.
 
Price increase is pretty much understood. SSD standardized? I'm not against it. I want a professional tool not a starter cam. Hopefully all facets of the camera will be operational upon release.
 
If people want a "professional" camera, why are they looking at the Scarlet? Shouldn't they be shopping for the Epic or Epic light? As for CF cards, I was reading the American Cinematographer from a couple months back and it seems The Social Network was shot almost entirely with CF cards, so I would certainly consider them to be professional media and think that the lower-price Scarlet would be more than fine if it didn't natively include the SSD module. I'm also okay with Scarlet price increases, but I certainly don't expect it to be quite as "professional" as the higher priced and spec'ed Epic/Epic Light. For the slightly less-professional and advanced beginner/starter crowd, that's what the Scarlet is for. It's a step up from the 5D/7D/prosumer cameras but not quite up to the levels of the professional Epic line.
 
Kyle Wright said:
If people want a "professional" camera, why are they looking at the Scarlet?
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Well, to be semantic, because RED builds professional cameras. Not consumer cameras and not prosumer cameras. That's their creed.

To be objective, assuming the Scarlet hits or exceeds its announced specs, it may very well be one of if not the most capable 2/3" chip camera on the market in pretty much any cinema/commercial arena. And that is a very professional market full of cameras from big companies being used by respected DPs on large-budget productions.

Just because it has a smaller sensor and lower resolution doesn't mean that it isn't a professional tool. I expect to see some stunning work shot with it.
 
I like that in the comments someone mentions that Red doesn't know what they're doing because "No one wants an attached lens," the person then goes on to say that "it wouldn't even be expensive to just add a lens mount instead"...so it's not only the writers that get their facts wrong.
 
Scarlet will still have side CF module as standard. Only on EPIC is SSD now standard ( with CF ability through CF to SSD adapter )
 
Thanks for clearing that up, Jarred. Will there be an upgrade option for SSD at a reduced cost for those who wish to forgo CF cards? :beer:
 
Kyle Wright said:
If people want a "professional" camera, why are they looking at the Scarlet?
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I own two F-900's, by any and all accounts, a truly professional camera, a 2/3" workhorse used to shoot anything and everything for the last ten years, including film projects by James Cameron, George Lucas and Robert Rodriguez. At its proposed specs, the Scarlet will be 1/10 the weight, 1/10 the size, 1/20 the price of the F-900 and just about 100 times a better camera.
 
Kyle Wright said:
If people want a "professional" camera, why are they looking at the Scarlet? Shouldn't they be shopping for the Epic or Epic light?
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Because Scarlet is a professional camera. Different set of features, starting with a 2/3" sensor, which is desirable in many situations.

As for CF cards, I was reading the American Cinematographer from a couple months back and it seems The Social Network was shot almost entirely with CF cards, so I would certainly consider them to be professional media and think that the lower-price Scarlet would be more than fine if it didn't natively include the SSD module.
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Scarlet and CF will be a great combination. 16GB CF cards, and potentially newer CF cards in the future, will work great here and will continue to work great on the RED One. As for the Epic, and even Epic-S to some extent, CF doesn't provide enough bandwidth and capacity (at this time).

Pirates of the Caribbean 4 was shot on CF cards... Over 4000 of them, or so I have read and been told.

I'm also okay with Scarlet price increases, but I certainly don't expect it to be quite as "professional" as the higher priced and spec'ed Epic/Epic Light.
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And what makes you say this?
 
Brandon J.F. said:
Will you offer CF cards larger than 16gb?
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I hope so. Though I remember a month or two ago someone from RED said there will not be 64GB CF's. So that leaves 32 or 128. Or a much bigger investment in SSDs. Can't do long interviews of people who aren't professional talkers on CF. You never know when that gem of a story will come flowing out.

Got a quick answer, but it showed up in a different thread. Pasting here for convenience.

Jarred Land said:
We have no plans on making higher capacity CF cards. Looks like CF has hit its limits, and when it's replacement, CFAST, finally becomes viable it likely will be another modular option for both Epic and Scarlet.. but that is likely at least a year or two away.
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Jeff Kilgroe said:
And what makes you say this?
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While it isn't the end all be all of image quality, sensor size does seem to carry quite a bit of weight in this discussion for a lot of people. The HDSLR revolution may have contributed to that. Personally, Scarlet is an attractive option for me because of the features and price point, but I'd be lying if I said that the fact that its a 2/3" chip doesn't bug me. Not that I doubt the image quality of the chip, just the idea that I have to build a different set of glass bugs me.
 
Re: Higher capacity CF cards.

Jarred just posted this:

Jarred Land said:
We have no plans on making higher capacity CF cards. Looks like CF has hit its limits, and when it's replacement, CFAST, finally becomes viable it likely will be another modular option for both Epic and Scarlet.. but that is likely at least a year or two away.
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So, CF, no.

CFAST, maybe. But definitely not right now.
 
Jarred Land said:
Scarlet will still have side CF module as standard. Only on EPIC is SSD now standard ( with CF ability through CF to SSD adapter )
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What kind of framerate and/or datarate limitations should we be expecting to see with CF at 3k?
 
Rough math, but...

According to reports, 5:1 on the Epic gives about 7GB/min.

The difference between the 3K sensor and 5K sensor is a factor of 2.777... in terms of spatial area.

Simple division would give about 2.52GB/min for 3K 5:1.

Which is, correct me if I'm wrong, a little bit faster than 4K REDCODE 36? Given the lower compression ratio, it makes sense...right?
 
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