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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Scarlet S35 is now...

My wild, yet somewhat educated guess is that there never was a $8000 S35 scarlet. That $1000 increase in price was for the 3K scarlet only, i think.

The 3K scarlet probably needs something like a cache for the 2nd stream of HDRx™™, and maybe a board that mixes the streams in real time, but the scarlet platform itself has the required processing power for the data throughput - there is enough headroom at moderate frame rates.

The case for S35 is different - merely adding image cache and mixing (or whatever the extra board required for HDRx™™ is) wasn't enough - due to higher resolution and thus higher amounts of data to push through, the scarlet platform's processing power was already more or less maxed out as is, at regular frame rates. So, in order to enable HDRx™™ is S35, they had to change it to epic platform which has more throughput.

In light of this, it might very well be that adding HDRx™™ to the camera now known as Epic-S required changes that up the cost not by $1000, but rather by $5000 (or whatever the final price will be).

...purely speculating here, but to me the above sounds pretty logical.
I think you're right Eki...

Thank you for pointing that out. :-)
 
And I won't be surprised if the artist formerly known as Scarlet turns out to be the same size as it's now brethren Epics.
 
Its kind of vague though 12k could be a minimal shooting package, like a battery side handle and LCD. I agree that will not include any modules though.
 
The old $7,000 Scarlet S35 body went up to $8,000 for having HDRx™.

Then it went up to about $12,000 for being now part of the EPIC lineup. The new name for the body is EPIC-S.

We are all waiting for Jim's update with final price and specs.

Thanks Stefan.

To others, when I meant camera I assumed it was the body/fairly basic from past. Form the description of HDRx, $1000 dollars increase seems more likely than $5000, I have old $99 pocket HD video camera with this sort of feature here, makes nice latitude, but my other older $99 still camera outdoes it (different high latitude technology called autobrite). However, the camera has moved up into the Epic market, and presumably in included package/features to, and the US dollar has slumped, so I imagine that also has something to do with it to.

Well, that puts the idea of buying a s35 instead of the fixed out of the question. How much is the full frame 35 now?

I would love to know if anybody around here actually knows of any economical glass that can resolve 3K?
 
Thanks Stefan.

To others, when I meant camera I assumed it was the body/fairly basic from past. Form the description of HDRx™, $1000 dollars increase seems more likely than $5000, I have old $99 pocket HD video camera with this sort of feature here, makes nice latitude, but my other older $99 still camera outdoes it (different high latitude technology called autobrite). However, the camera has moved up into the Epic market, and presumably in included package/features to, and the US dollar has slumped, so I imagine that also has something to do with it to.

Well, that puts the idea of buying a s35 instead of the fixed out of the question. How much is the full frame 35 now?

I would love to know if anybody around here actually knows of any economical glass that can resolve 3K?
You're Welcome Wayne.

Not sure if I understand your question, but there have been no Full Frame Scarlet or EPIC update for awhile. They should not ship before a year or two... A least.

As for the glass, any Canon or Nikon glass will do it.
 
The move from Scarlet to Epic-S tell us RED as a company finally define it niche which is the Pro Market .If RED one is still the best Democratic Gear a movie maker can buy now in any shape,form and performance ,let trust Jim and is team for the pricing of Epic-S specially manufacture in the US .
History is being made right in front of us people.I am loving it .
 
You're Welcome Wayne.

Not sure if I understand your question, but there have been no Full Frame Scarlet or EPIC update for awhile. They should not ship before a year or two... A least.

As for the glass, any Canon or Nikon glass will do it.

2/3rds or 16mm for 2/3rds scarlet? Wouldn't most of the older stuff be SD quality? I wonder, at even 3K, if most of the glass many people own will just be soft.


Full frame, I mean, wasn't there going to be a 35mm still lens version as well?
 
2/3rds or 16mm for 2/3rds scarlet? Wouldn't most of the older stuff be SD quality? I wonder, at even 3K, if most of the glass many people own will just be soft.


Full frame, I mean, wasn't there going to be a 35mm still lens version as well?

Vintage 16mm glass is popular with some photographers on the m4/3 format cameras with c-mount adapters. Some vignetting since the sensor is much larger than 16mm, but many cover surprisingly well.

Check out
http://www.flickr.com/groups/c-mount_/pool

There is some very sharp vintage 16mm glass out there. The best examples won't be cheap though. Popularity of these lenses with the m4/3 crowd has driven prices through the roof for some of the best and fastest ones.
 
Thanks for the heads up David. I was concerned that most of the glass people owned would not match (90%+) and people would be stuck trying to buy good stuff. Looking at the quality of 16mm film it often looks a lot lower.
 
Has RED mentioned how quick it will be to replace the EOS lens mount for a PL mount on Epic?
 
Has RED mentioned how quick it will be to replace the EOS lens mount for a PL mount on Epic?

4 screws plus the time it takes to check and adjust back focus. I don't think it is something to do casually between shots on set, but it is not an onerous task.
 
Glad to see RED is setting the standard again. All these DSLR cameras fighting for a position that RED already has and keeps improving. Going to purchase several Scarlets for a upcoming reality show production, can't wait.

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Glad to see RED is setting the standard again. All these DSLR cameras fighting for a position that RED already has and keeps improving. Going to purchase several Scarlets for a upcoming reality show production, can't wait.

Selvyn Price
Line Producer / Post Supervisor
323.302.1161 c
pdppost@mac.com

PEELHEAD ENTERTAINMENT LLC.
2630 Lacy Street Studios
Los Angeles, CA 90031

Online profiles:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0697148/
http://www.linkedin.com/in/peelhead
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=588231744&ref=profile

Hey Selvyn ,
Mate your may or may not be aware but you're going to need your real name here on the reduser
see thread here: http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32432

all the best,
Christian
 
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