Scarlet (and shipping) announcement Nov. 3rd...

[Jack Smith]

Just saw some hints about interchangeable scarlet. Cant' wait

 

[Hunter Peterson]

This is going to be one very long month.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

+1

This is going to be one very long month.

indeed.

 

[Jimmy Moss]

Its like the day before christmas.... but for all of october.....

 

[Alexis Nicole Hodge]

Wonderful. It would be nice to have a multiple monitor (three times full 1080p @ 24") wallpaper of RED products including the Scarlet. Wonder what the chances might be of this happening.

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Projector availability time and pricing segment to go along with scarlet purchases? What a great display for editing system.

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Well, I can tell some must be putting in unreasonable trolls, or drunk or something. Seriously, this is a time of celebration, light at the end of the tunnel, the end the road. After all the efforts, and the Tsunami, it is obviouse everything is ready, and given no unexpected displays it is coming.

Do you guys really want to go on the list and have to resort to buy a Gh2, prosumer or rich camera to film with instead of a 4k+ scarlet, no competition for real professionals?

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Scarlet Round camera?

Scarlet Round camera?

Eric again, lately seems that almost everytime I reply to a reasonable post your name comes up quoted on it (I often don't look at it, and the posters name colon is off screen often on this device). Anyway, I already knew what I was going to write.

I am hoping that there are some fairly straight forward stereo synch options (mainly for side by side shooting); we have different apps so side by side works great for us (not trying to invite debate on that).

Would be nice to get a sense of what would be required to synch several pairs of cameras in a cost effective reliable way?

Sometime ago somebody I knew came up with a idea to hook cameras up in a ring to provide a 3d surround view. I didn't tell him that I came up with a more advanced form of the idea in the 80's (think now out, but forget, so I won't mention). Unfortunately he took off down south to Slicon Graphics. Brilliant in some ways. Actually my head is starting to formulate a animated interactive use as I type.

However, putting history aside, what is scarlet round?

Scarlet round would be a part or complete ring of scarlet heads. Scarlet Sphere, you can guess, lowered over the user who can stand on the remaining cameras under the standing plate, or raised through the floor, looks stunning for pr, or simply a door of cameras on the side (lowering through the top I'm not getting into) allowing action stunts to be recorded from all directions and inserted in scenes post production as a 3d model.

For motion capture this can be used to make a true 3d model of actor and true modeling of the actors flesh, muscle, organs, hair and clothing distortions. A stunt double of actor that just conforms to the actors type canbe used and transformed through the processing on the model to the actor. Use of actors model would further increase this accuracy, and actors characteristics and that of the actors motion, canbe included and transcribed onto the stunt double model aswell to make it seem more characteristic of the actor.

The stuff Cameron did on Avatar was exactly what I wanted to do in the 80's or early 90's, probably using the surround in the 90's, for a short film that would have been called Night Flight to Venus, with the Boney M song of the same name hopefully. Imagine my utter disappointment when I did training on a quarter million dollar system in the original Maya, when even the cloth module was something just breaking, so far behind and no way to increase the economies of film production, just incompetence.

The film industry, as I stated in years past, should have put together public domain 3d image libraries and started a open source project 3d software to develop and do all these things (of course many cheap software packages do a lot these days). To drastically cut the cost from well over a quarter a million dollars then, to a well healed PC, and hardware. This open source could have been extended to camera hardware aswell.

So, back on topic, what about a Scarlet Round camera Jim and team?

 

[Wayne Morellini]

LOL whoever is on the shit list should be banned from the forum, but RED should still take their money and ship them a camera so those ppl can be called hypocrites for doubting and saying nothing but negative things, and RED will become all that much more profitable$ if ppl are questioning RED still, then wait and see you will be wrong because We believe in RED and we are rounding home base and they will make a home run with the scarlet IMO..

Agreed. Two lists might be preferable for very bad, one just band from the sight till they grow up, one just band.

 

[Patrick Scheller]

Wow Ice Age was filmed with RED too? Cool

 

[Eric Lange]

Eric again, lately seems that almost everytime I reply to a reasonable post your name comes up quoted on it (I often don't look at it, and the posters name colon is off screen often on this device). Anyway, I already knew what I was going to write.



Sometime ago somebody I knew came up with a idea to hook cameras up in a ring to provide a 3d surround view. I didn't tell him that I came up with a more advanced form of the idea in the 80's (think now out, but forget, so I won't mention). Unfortunately he took off down south to Slicon Graphics. Brilliant in some ways. Actually my head is starting to formulate a animated interactive use as I type.

However, putting history aside, what is scarlet round?

Scarlet round would be a part or complete ring of scarlet heads. Scarlet Sphere, you can guess, lowered over the user who can stand on the remaining cameras under the standing plate, or raised through the floor, looks stunning for pr, or simply a door of cameras on the side (lowering through the top I'm not getting into) allowing action stunts to be recorded from all directions and inserted in scenes post production as a 3d model.

For motion capture this can be used to make a true 3d model of actor and true modeling of the actors flesh, muscle, organs, hair and clothing distortions. A stunt double of actor that just conforms to the actors type canbe used and transformed through the processing on the model to the actor. Use of actors model would further increase this accuracy, and actors characteristics and that of the actors motion, canbe included and transcribed onto the stunt double model aswell to make it seem more characteristic of the actor.

The stuff Cameron did on Avatar was exactly what I wanted to do in the 80's or early 90's, probably using the surround in the 90's, for a short film that would have been called Night Flight to Venus, with the Boney M song of the same name hopefully. Imagine my utter disappointment when I did training on a quarter million dollar system in the original Maya, when even the cloth module was something just breaking, so far behind and no way to increase the economies of film production, just incompetence.

The film industry, as I stated in years past, should have put together public domain 3d image libraries and started a open source project 3d software to develop and do all these things (of course many cheap software packages do a lot these days). To drastically cut the cost from well over a quarter a million dollars then, to a well healed PC, and hardware. This open source could have been extended to camera hardware aswell.

So, back on topic, what about a Scarlet Round camera Jim and team?

We have developed the software to do this for quite some time now, just waiting for appropriate acquisition systems. So we have some very powerful other techniques that combine with that idea (most of the patents are granted a few still pending) that we can bring to bear to really make a very substantial “quantum” leap for the scenario you kind of describe. Right now we are working in some other areas that are very high res and high precision especially on the hardware side. Obviously RED 645 (one day) will be the ticket (ultimately I think).

The future road map for RED in respect of what we need is really unbelievable. If Jim follows through on the things he is fixin to do RED will be Jesus Chr*st, the flying spaghetti monster and Santa clause all rolled into one (at least for me/us). [Sorry if I have offended any Christians, pastafarians and those that still believe in Santa.] … I think Jim IS the new Santa or Santa in disguise.

The opportunities that RED creates are so spectacular and rare that you sometimes have to pinch yourself in disbelief. Bring it on…

The future’s RED…

Cheers,

Eric

Append:

Also hoping that the spec’s offered on the day and on the hour are comprehensive and detailed enough to enable one to pull the trigger…with reasonable confidence (once the basic spec is understood). We don’t have enough (fractional) budget to make huge blunders through blind faith alone (in spite of RED “spirit”). Sometimes seemingly very small implementation details can be real show stoppers, so as much practical detail on the day would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Modern santa clause is not really Christian, but an abbreviation that nobody should take as a genuine belief of Christians and other sane people. You could call ithe modern Santa a bit of non Christian abbreviation, though originally there was a person that the story was based on.

 

[James Kirst]

holy crap 200+ posts. all I want is a camera I can launch into outer space (meaning: you guys better knock ~700 grams off the final weigh-in, hopefully)

 

[Graham Munro]

Who can say... All things subject to change and all that. I'm positive they will have an S35 camera that will be lower cost (at the expense of features and capability) compared to the EPIC-X/M. Not sure if it matters what they call it. Who knows, there may end up being more than one of those, or maybe not. I'm not sure if more than one is warranted or needed.

Anyway, I've learned from all my time here that it's best to not read too far into little details like that or try to analyze Jim's posts. Most of the time when people (including myself) try to do just that, the results are usually error. He likes to tease and get people excited, but he's rarely cryptic. There's a difference between being cryptic and simply withholding details until he's ready.

If I was a gambling man I would predict the surprise will be a 4K Scarlet Fixed. I read a report that 2/3 sensors are not in mainstream production anymore and is not aligned with Red's bread and butter. The current chassis would support a larger sensor, Canon would shit themselves, and Red would have a little more economy of scale in production. That would explain Jim's responses on the Epic S. $50 bucks - any takers?

 

[Will Wernick]

Ill second that I think a 4k scarlet is very realistic.

 

[Eric Lange]

holy crap 200+ posts. all I want is a camera I can launch into outer space (meaning: you guys better knock ~700 grams off the final weigh-in, hopefully)

Maybe I don’t get the joke…or maybe it’s not a joke?

Can you scoop the guts out?, I’m pretty sure launching it into space or on a stratospheric balloon voids the warranty (somehow) …(he, he). You don’t think they would give you a board level camera if you put SCARTLET into space?

Maybe they, RED, could machine you a chassis out of Derlin, (might need atomized metal deposition on the inside of the case for anti-static).

I wonder what the current altitude record is for a RED piece of equipment? I think that would be a nice chart to have on the wall at the RED company HQ. One day we see RED on the moon and around Mars (in our life times).

Ta.

Eric

BTW witling down a magnesium chassis by hand with little files is super dangerous…

4k++ Scarlet man...

 

[Eric Lange]

Modern santa clause is not really Christian, but an abbreviation that nobody should take as a genuine belief of Christians and other sane people. You could call ithe modern Santa a bit of non Christian abbreviation, though originally there was a person that the story was based on.

Last time I checked though I thought Jesus Chr*st was a little bit Christian, but maybe I’m a bit out of touch, however I definitely feel that the flying spaghetti monster’s noodly appendage is no longer upon me.

“ARRRRRR” (sad pirate refrain).

The original St. Nicolas was pretty groovy when he brought back to life three boys that were pickled in a jar circa 300 AD. Of course he’s been struck of the saint’s list for some reason.

Now that would be a good movie, St Nicolas, the true story..., shot by Scorsese on Scarlet..all the original gory details, would make the Shining seem like a pick nick by comparison.

Well lots of Scarlet’s under the tree this year (I wonder)…geeze who has the self restraint to put a Scarlet in box and place it under a tree???

(pure madness).

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

who has the self restraint to put a Scarlet in box and place it under a tree???

I'm thinking about doing just that. Acting as if I have no clue where the package came from... Then after opening it, thanking santa. Hehe. The kids would get a kick out of it and the wife would want to choke me. It's perfect.

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Last time I checked though I thought Jesus Chr*st was a little bit Christian, but maybe I’m a bit out of touch, however I definitely feel that the flying spaghetti monster’s noodly appendage is no longer upon me.

“ARRRRRR” (sad pirate refrain).

The original St. Nicolas was pretty groovy when he brought back to life three boys that were pickled in a jar circa 300 AD. Of course he’s been struck of the saint’s list for some reason.

Now that would be a good movie, St Nicolas, the true story..., shot by Scorsese on Scarlet..all the original gory details, would make the Shining seem like a pick nick by comparison.

Well lots of Scarlet’s under the tree this year (I wonder)…geeze who has the self restraint to put a Scarlet in box and place it under a tree???

(pure madness).

That actually is a great idea, wouldn't mind that, but what about done by Territino ; ) .

We were talking about Santa Clause, not Jesus.

I actually would not mind doing a remake of Jesus Christ Super Star. There was a song when I was a kid, about him burning around the corner on his Yamaha. So a serious film about modern Jesus burning down the desert mountain track, been divinely protected from bedwin sniper fire, I a scene reminiscent of the scene from starwars. Oh, this isn't the fun thread .

I haven't heard of that mirical. I am suspicious of some of these miricals, even though I have known people that have seen amazing things myself, and head of more. I was not aware of any miricals attributed to saint nick, but then thst is how they make them saints. I wonder how many times miricals are attributed that did not happen. Allways be suspicious of people that want you to worship what is 'not worshipable".

 

[Wayne Morellini]

If I was a gambling man I would predict the surprise will be a 4K Scarlet Fixed. I read a report that 2/3 sensors are not in mainstream production anymore and is not aligned with Red's bread and butter. The current chassis would support a larger sensor, Canon would shit themselves, and Red would have a little more economy of scale in production. That would explain Jim's responses on the Epic S. $50 bucks - any takers?

As I said before, 2/3rds (and half inch) is the new consumer format (prosumer). We already have hundred dollar cameras with 1/2.3 inch chips for years now, and full frame is already in use consumer, such as the hg 20.