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Scarlet 2/3" Fixed @ CES

Ben Holmes said:
Depressing reading the comments on Engadget et al - although I did add a few replies on Engadget in particular....

More I read this stuff, more I'm glad Scarlet costs more, and is more pro orientated. Playing prosumer would be a massive mistake for a company like RED.
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Not your casual use consumer camera by any means.
Serious tools require serious commitment.
 
Is it possible to control focus on the 8x Fixed Scarlet, using a REDmote? (or is that feature restricted to the REDmote Pro?)
 
David Rasberry said:
You won't need the Beachtek, it is made for unbalanced 1/8" stereo inputs. The 1/8" jacks on Scarlet are wired balanced mono with phantom power for mics. There are two of them. All you will need is an XLR to mini TRS adapter cable wired for balanced mics.
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Thank you, David, but I'm afraid I still don't understand the suggestion. So does the Scarlet have a built-in XLR adapter, in place of the Beachtek? - I'm trying to get around having to purchase the pro audio module. XLR adapters have served me well. When you get a chance, can you clarify for this newbie? :-)
 
Ameer Azari said:
Is it possible to control focus on the 8x Fixed Scarlet, using a REDmote? (or is that feature restricted to the REDmote Pro?)
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Good question, last time I spoke with Ted (at Cinec in Munich 2010), wanting to confirm exactly that - he told me it was only possible on the Pro - ever since then I have been hoping to hear otherwise.

Possible official clear-up??
 
Joseph Podlesnik said:
Thank you, David, but I'm afraid I still don't understand the suggestion. So does the Scarlet have a built-in XLR adapter, in place of the Beachtek? - I'm trying to get around having to purchase the pro audio module. XLR adapters have served me well. When you get a chance, can you clarify for this newbie? :-)
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Joseph, what David is saying is that electrically, the 1/8" connectors on the Scarlet are identical to XLRs...they have 3 signal conductors (high, low, ground...known as "balanced audio") as do XLRs. That is different from most prosumer cameras which can also use 1/8" connectors but they have only 2 conductors (hot, ground...also known as "unbalanced audio").

Beachtek adapters serve 3 purposes simultaneously: 1) they convert an unbalanced audio signal into a balanced audio signal. 2) they supply XLR connections to plug in professional mics. 3) they supply phantom power down the mic cable to condenser microphones which require phantom power to operate. They can also add level controls to prosumer cameras that don't have that capability.

The Scarlet 1/8" connectors are already balanced, and they supply phantom power. So the only thing they don't do is give you an XLR connection to plug into...which can be accomplished with a simple 1/8" to XLR adapter cable.

Hope that helps...
 
Tom Greenberg said:
The Scarlet 1/8" connectors are already balanced, and they supply phantom power. So the only thing they don't do is give you an XLR connection to plug into...which can be accomplished with a simple 1/8" to XLR adapter cable.
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Oh, thanks for the infos ! Any specific mic you could suggest for a stereo capture on a run'n'gun Scarlet rig ?
 
onboard stereo is a bit funny, normally you'd want a more directional mic on camera, like sennheiser mkh416 or dpa4017. They work for me in combination with wireles lavaliers. But stereo, hmmm
 
Benoît-Joan Clariana-Roig said:
Oh, thanks for the infos ! Any specific mic you could suggest for a stereo capture on a run'n'gun Scarlet rig ?
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You may not want to use a stereo mic, depending on what/where you are shooting. The only time I would possibly use a stereo mic is for capturing ambiences in nature or sports shooting. But in general, those mics are not very directional, and also not very high-quality. If you do want to use a stereo mic, the Rode Video StereoMic is probably a good choice at a reasonable price. However, IMO you are probably better off to use a high-quality short shotgun mic like a Sennheiser MKH60, or MKH416 to give you a bit more "throw" and considerably better sound quality. That will also leave one mic input free for a wireless mic on talent.
 
what Soren said LOL...
 
Just trying to watch some of the press links that I did at CES yesterday (man I did a lot of gabbing yesterday... even for a guy like me) Just saw the one interview where I said "T4" ... I was trying to get out the words "f2.4 across the range... but apparently my mouth wouldn't let me say that - it's quite creepy to see my brain on camera trying to say it, but not being able to :-) That interviewer Devin was pretty juiced up... was hard to even answer one question before he was onto the next one...

but then you see the shot of the LCD menu right after where it clearly says 2.5, so not sure what all the ruckus was about on the forum... anyway hopefully that was some press good coverage on the Scarlet for you guys - it was fun running around with it, showing it off.

+ Ted
 
Just for reference/clarity in case the "Mic" notation didn't make it clear:

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Tom Greenberg said:
You may not want to use a stereo mic, depending on what/where you are shooting. The only time I would possibly use a stereo mic is for capturing ambiences in nature or sports shooting. But in general, those mics are not very directional, and also not very high-quality. If you do want to use a stereo mic, the Rode Video StereoMic is probably a good choice at a reasonable price. However, IMO you are probably better off to use a high-quality short shotgun mic like a Sennheiser MKH60, or MKH416 to give you a bit more "throw" and considerably better sound quality. That will also leave one mic input free for a wireless mic on talent.
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Thanks for your advice : it's for capturing ambiences. :auto:
 
Tom Greenberg said:
Joseph, what David is saying is that electrically, the 1/8" connectors on the Scarlet are identical to XLRs...they have 3 signal conductors (high, low, ground...known as "balanced audio") as do XLRs. That is different from most prosumer cameras which can also use 1/8" connectors but they have only 2 conductors (hot, ground...also known as "unbalanced audio").
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Careful!!

There are different adapters out there for different purposes. Actually, most prosumer (actually consumer as far as I'm concerned) cameras with a 1/8" or 3.5mm jack are wired for stereo input. Tip=channel 1 hot, Ring=channel 2 hot, Sleeve=ground. Just because an adapter cable has a 1/8 plug on one end and xlr on the other does not mean it will work. The 1/8 end might be wired for stereo, mono, dual mono, or TRS balanced). You can fry circuits if it is wired wrong.

DO NOT plug a stereo mic or a Beachtek stereo output directly into one of the Scarlet inputs. Whatever happens will not be good.

Also, regarding using an on-camera shotgun, depending on the situation you might get significant fan noise. I plan to have a wireless receiver more-or-less permanently plugged into one of the inputs, so I can use an off-camera handheld or boom-mounted shotgun as my primary sound source for run and gun.
 
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Steve Wake said:
Careful!!

There are different adapters out there for different purposes. Actually, most prosumer (actually consumer as far as I'm concerned) cameras with a 1/8" or 3.5mm jack are wired for stereo input. Tip=channel 1 hot, Ring=channel 2 hot, Sleeve=ground. Just because an adapter cable has a 1/8 plug on one end and xlr male on the other does not mean it will work. The 1/8 end might be wired for stereo, mono, dual mono, or TRS balanced). You can fry circuits if it is wired wrong.
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Steve raises some very good points. I was trying to keep it simple, so I didn't elaborate on connector wiring, but as David originally mentioned, these need to be a 1/8" TRS (tip, ring, sleeve) balanced to XLR cable. I'm sure RED will have suitable adapter cables available in the RED store, and professional location sound dealers like Trew Audio will have them as well.
 
Ameer Azari said:
Is it possible to control focus on the 8x Fixed Scarlet, using a REDmote? (or is that feature restricted to the REDmote Pro?)
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It's just that if you're going to be operating "away" from the Scarlet with the REDmote, focus control seems somewhat essential... specially if it's on a jib.

Then again, I'm sure the answer is, "that's why someone would choose to buy the REDmote Pro" - which is perfectly fair.

Also, I remember RED mentioning some wide-angle and telephoto adaptors for the Scarlet, are they still being developed? - although, the Scarlet seemed plenty wide to me to be honest.
 
Does anyone know how the purchasing of the fixed lens will work? Will you have to own a red or epic before your allowed to purchase?

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Francesco said:
Does anyone know how the purchasing of the fixed lens will work? Will you have to own a red or epic before your allowed to purchase?

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The last I heard, RED One owners will have priority for a short window of time.
 
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