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RPAs...

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What's the point of picking on Indian Cinema?

It's not like American Cinema is any good these days, save for some four or five directors.

Not to mention many of the biggest directors in Hollywood aren't American at all.

So, back to the cameras.
 
To be fair, Indian cinema is vast and diverse. India has made the most feature films per year for a long time now. There have been some exceptional directors who myself, and several others, consider to be some of the all-time great directors of cinema. Satyajit Ray, Ritwik Ghatak, Guru Dutt, Mrinal Sen to name some. Of course, Ray is the big one. Several of your favourite directors are likely influenced by him in some way or another. A key pioneer of cinema.

As for today's Indian cinema, well, it appeals to the Indian audience. You can never convince Indians that the movies they watch are bad. They love what they watch.

Personally, I despise most Indian films. But I accept their special place in the world of cinema.

Time to get back to RPAs.
 
Jean Iona said:
Indian Superman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Pjo0WjBcs&feature=fvw
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M.J. is going to be seriously pissed when she sees that Indian girl running around in Peter's Spidey suit...

Indian Matrix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhGrA0KwkVg
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Production value and budget obviously were not there for it, but they did an admirable job of replicating many of the shots and the scene as a whole.

India is a beautiful place and I have seen some truly remarkable films come out of India. But much of what Bollywood produces is analogous to the examples here, unfortunately. Indian films are still very much in their infancy, even though film production is hardly new there. The films are mostly very spiritual and vary in accordance with the region they are intended for. They are still mostly musicals and/or opera-like and are more likened to their traditional theatre than films made in the west... We must also take into account the differences in culture and budget as well as the expectations of their audiences.
 
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Jeff, I would argue that everything positive you get from it should be attributed to the original authors. Not just because it is morally logical to do so, but also in part because this is just like me screaming "naked girl!" and you remembering the real thing. ;)
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
It made me feel better to notice he failed big time and likely ate some serious shit at 1:25... hope it hurt...
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You hope it hurt? I hope not. As someone who's done lots of stunts in my life, both for great and shity films, I don't wish anyone to get hurt even if they are shamelessly ripping off another movie.

Ironically enough, I wonder how many C, B and even A directors in Hollywood would have replicated this scene as closely if given the task. And what did this have to do with anamorphic lenses again?
 
I know, I know, you are right... I was just venting... I know there was a mat behind the column anyway, and knowing that definitely helped me feel comfortable enough to rant in that way. I would never want anyone get hurt. That is the worse thing that could happen to me. Thinking about it chills me to the bone sometimes.

Still, I am angered by this, and everyone working on it shares the guilt. There is always someone that just needs a pay-check, and the whole "how wrong is it to steal an apple for your kids if they are hungry" thing comes into play, but it doesn't make this OK.
 
Ok, now I'm not pissed at you anymore, because you're right, theft, especially intellectual theft, angers me to the very core. Only reason I was more amused than bothered was because I was hoping, or would hope, that viewers would pay to see the real thing and not this ripoff, but who knows, I wouldn't be surprised if things like this actually made money...
 
I like the Indian Matrix. It had a B-movie vibe going on that I really dig.

Even though it's a shameless rip, people still had to do a lot of work to make it.
 
Subhadip Sen said:
To be fair, Indian cinema is vast and diverse. India has made the most feature films per year for a long time now. There have been some exceptional directors who myself, and several others, consider to be some of the all-time great directors of cinema. Satyajit Ray, Ritwik Ghatak, Guru Dutt, Mrinal Sen to name some. Of course, Ray is the big one. Several of your favourite directors are likely influenced by him in some way or another. A key pioneer of cinema.

As for today's Indian cinema, well, it appeals to the Indian audience. You can never convince Indians that the movies they watch are bad. They love what they watch.

Personally, I despise most Indian films. But I accept their special place in the world of cinema.

Time to get back to RPAs.
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AMEN! I really dug them, actually the first things that made me smile all day.

I'd like to see a Hollywood studio do better with the same budget.
 
Andy Jarosz said:
people still had to do a lot of work to make it.
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"Make it" is too strong. There was no creation here.

I could go out and attempt to transcribe Edgar Allan Poe for someone that only spoke Spanish. No matter the enormity of the task, the impossibility of capturing his words in a different language completely unaffected by me or the incompatible intricacies of the tongues themselves -even if everyone unanimously felt I had succeeded at such a mind-bender of a task- still yet! It wouldn't be mine, and I wouldn't have made it.

And unless I am horribly mistaken, this is not some sort of legal translation for a society that unbeknownst to me has a particular objection with both subtitles and dubbing...
 
Jim and Jarred,

Just out of curiosity, why the radio silence on 1.3x, 1.5x or 2x anamorphics, and front middle or rear anamorph design. Both seem like a reasonable things to tell your potential customers, if you are serious that is.

Matt Uhry,
Stage 2, Black Island, Acton, UK
www.mattuhry.com
 
[Rudi Herbert;634754] And what did this have to do with anamorphic lenses again?
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Dress a Bollywood dancing couple as Superman and Spidey, tilt them 90 degrees to suggest flying, and it will look better shot anamorphic maybe?
 
Rudi Herbert said:
Ok, now I'm not pissed at you anymore, because you're right, theft, especially intellectual theft, angers me to the very core. Only reason I was more amused than bothered was because I was hoping, or would hope, that viewers would pay to see the real thing and not this ripoff, but who knows, I wouldn't be surprised if things like this actually made money...
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Hey folks, I think you will find that these folk bought the remake rights. Well, at least that is often (and I'd imagine mostly) the case.

Just like Hollywood. How many Hollywood remakes are as good as the originals?

The Vanishing
Death at a Funeral
Diabolique
City of Angels
Just Visiting
Swept Away

Nothing against these films, but just a bit of perspective!

Best,

DT
 
Hmm. I come to my trusted forum to catch up on REDappenings and find this OT fest going on. Come on folks, let's not talk about indian cinema by looking at a few silly clips on youtube (uploaded there precisely because they are silly).

If cinema is about telling a story while evoking emotion via images/words/edits, then indian cinema evokes emotional responses in its target audience via its aesthetic that Hollywood can only aspire to.

All that is a separate discussion from intellectual rights. These days, yes, most high budget Bollywood films are indeed buying remake rights from the original filmmakers. And selling remake rights to Hollywood for Bollywood films as well (Gangster MD being one in development apparently scripted by 17 Again's talented screenwriter Jason Filardi).

Anyways, as someone said, back to RPAs please.
 
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