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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Rocket Fuel...

Lucas Wilson said:
This is not an NVidia issue, fyi. Drivers for OSX are rolled into the OS install. Apple does their own drivers. Hardware companies provide Apple a low-level API, and then Apple does the rest of the work.

This is 100% an Apple decision.
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Lucas,

One note--there are new graphics cards being rolled out by Nvidia that Apple has not provided direct drivers for:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/TW387ZM/A

Sold on the Apple store and by resellers as well, but the drivers come on the CD in the box, not in the OS.

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Lucas Wilson said:
I stand corrected. Learn something new every day. Tx, Torrey.
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Well, since ratio of me getting schooled by you is 99:1 in your favor, I gleefully take every opportunity to get my $.02 in...

:-)

TL
 

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Hi all,

Rocket Fuel will be officially shipping very soon. Win7 x64 was released today, and there is now a stable, tested driver for the SDI cards under Win7 x64.

All of our hardware partners and resellers can officially sell Win7 products as of today. Systems are being built and getting ready to ship for the orders we have already taken.

Best,

Lucas
 
Can Something like Rocket Fuel™ take all my shots of a day, pregrade everything (basic look for dailies) and render out to mpeg-2 so i can burn Dailies DVD's?
We might be talking about 3-4 hours per day...

Also, can that pre-grade be exported as an RSX? I need to apply the same look to the prores versions of the footage thats sent to editorial.



Thanks

-Frank Cueto
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
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NVIDIA Quadro SDI Output option card>>>
Quadro_SDI_bracket_med.png

It's only question about how Mac OSX BootCamp could "deal" with NVIDIA® Quadro® SDI Output card but on Snow Leopard BootCamp should be fine with that... (!!!???).
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I think from what Lucas has said, this wouldn't work with Scratch Cine, and even if it did, it would take up another slot in the MacPro. :-(

I just wanted to avoid buying both a top-of-the-range Windows PC as well as a max-ed out MacPro. Oh well...
 
Frank Cueto said:
Can Something like Rocket Fuel™ take all my shots of a day, pregrade everything (basic look for dailies) and render out to mpeg-2 so i can burn Dailies DVD's? We might be talking about 3-4 hours per day...
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Short answer - yes. But, SCRATCH-CINE does not directly render .mpg files. You can render to Quicktime, which has several mpg-style codecs.

Frank Cueto said:
Also, can that pre-grade be exported as an RSX? I need to apply the same look to the prores versions of the footage thats sent to editorial.
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SCRATCH-CINE looks can be exported as 1D LUTs or 3D LUTs, but not as RSX. LUTs are a much more universal format and translate to many more systems.

Best,

Lucas
 
Can I load 3D-Luts into RedRushes to make my prores editorial QT's?
Or better said, how would you go about making ProRes QT's that have the look that the DoP and Director agreed upon ont he set using Rocket Fuel?
I really don.t want to be jumping thru too many hoops for this.

-Frank Cueto
 
Frank Cueto said:
Can I load 3D-Luts into RedRushes to make my prores editorial QT's?
Or better said, how would you go about making ProRes QT's that have the look that the DoP and Director agreed upon ont he set using Rocket Fuel?
I really don.t want to be jumping thru too many hoops for this.

-Frank Cueto
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The best way to do it with Rocket Fuel is to use REDCINE on set. REDCINE looks can be directly loaded into SCRATCH CINE.

Lucas
 
4K output with grade

4K output with grade

I would like to use Rocket Fuel/Scratch Cine for 4K Dailies and 4K DI.

As I understand it, the RED Rocket™™ debayers the 4K r3ds and then the grading is driven by the nVidia GPU which also outputs the 2K or 1080 graded footage.

It has been suggested to use the nVidia Quadraplex which can drive a 4K display solution but I was recently told that the Quadraplex is not Windows 7 compatible. If that is true, and if Rocket Fuel is Windows 7 only, what's a 4K Ninja to do???

Cheers - #19
 
Lucas Wilson said:
The best way to do it with Rocket Fuel is to use REDCINE on set. REDCINE looks can be directly loaded into SCRATCH CINE.

Lucas
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But doesnt this defeat the purpose of having rocket fuel on set for realtime playback for my crew/clients?

-Frank Cueto
 
Frank Cueto said:
But doesnt this defeat the purpose of having rocket fuel on set for realtime playback for my crew/clients?

-Frank Cueto
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Yes.

I thought you were talking about a job that had already occured? I think I'm confused here... are you asking what's the best way to get looks to FCP with Rocket Fuel?

What workflow are you trying to accomplish?

Lucas
 
Lucas Wilson said:
Yes.

I thought you were talking about a job that had already occured? I think I'm confused here... are you asking what's the best way to get looks to FCP with Rocket Fuel?

What workflow are you trying to accomplish?

Lucas
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Lucas, I think a lot of us MAC users would like to know this (FCP workflow and Rocketfuel) and I believe this clarification would also help your sales... ;)
 
Here is the workflow I need to make work with Rocket Fuel.

1)Have my DoP, On Set, Roughly grade the footage. A take or two from each setup.
2)apply that look to all the takes that they deem neccesary ON-SET.
3)Render versions of all the footage (2-3 hours per day) to dvd compatible codec 720x480 with pulldown and audio from camera
4) somehow get that look into redrushes to make all my ProRes Editorial Quicktimes (since we can't do prores on windows stations)

I can make this work on the mac via red rocket, but its not a fully developed product, and I have my concerns abuot having a station on set that depends on beta software (RocketCine-X)

-Frank Cueto
 
Andrae Palmer said:
This sounds like an incredible deal... I'm blown away by this. Basically a new buyer would now be getting Scratch Cine for free, If the cost of the REDRocket card and Nvidia card is roughly equated to $11k alone. Heck I'm in.
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Yup. If RED announces that Epic-X is more than 4 or 5 months away I may have to jump on this deal. This is even better than what I and others were begging Luki for back when Assimilate had exclusive access.
 
No joy?

-Frank Cueto
 
Lucas Wilson said:
For Rocket Fuel (the point of this thread) you need an SDI card.
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Lucas why do i need the SDI card? Can i monitor out through dvi or 10 bit dysplay port?

i am not talking about the deal, i would love to have it all but just for clarify...

thanks in advance
 
I have a feeling that scratch will grade using the GPU, and as such, it is highly unlikely or bandwidth intensiveto send all that data back to the Red Rocket, BUT the gpu card is designed to pass on the data (video) to its daughtercard... just a guess....

-Frank Cueto
 
No Secondaries?

No Secondaries?

I can certainly appreciate the value of what is being offered here. I work primarily in a file based workflow and don't lay anything back to tape until the end. Since there is no secondary color correction included in the package, what's the added value above using Red Rocket and RocketCine-X to create one-lites?

Why not render out flat Quicktime files with Red-Rocket, cut the show, and use Apple Color with it's powerful secondary room?

What are we buying here for the extra $7000 to $12,000 dollars over Red Rocket? Speed?

Perhaps including a limited amount of Scaffolds might be in order, perhaps something less than a full blown Scratch System. That would make the Rocket Fuel more appealing to those like myself who work mostly in HD. I'd really did the idea of working in Scratch-Cine at this price point, but I need some ability to do secondary color correction to make this work.


Respectfully,

Dave Dessel
 
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