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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Rocket Fuel...

namekyoyo said:
If you are serious about getting the software and configuring your own hardware you should contact Lucas directly at lucas (at) assimilateinc (dot) com and see what you guys can work out. Otherwise people will interpret your posts as the usual forum whining.
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I already evaluated Scratch 3.6; 3.7 and 3.9.

It worked quite good on MBP 17".

At that time the price didn't fit in my budget but now I saw that they cut it.

But again the whole new package still relays on a turnkey hardware.

In this case I do have my own hardware configuration idea and

I hoped that Scratch software as a standalone package is finally available to purchase

but unfortunately it is still not.

Who knows? Maybe will never be.

It's a pity!

That's all.

Have a look at Scratch 3.9 on my MBP 17":

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Sanjin Jukic said:
I already evaluated Scratch 3.6; 3.7 and 3.9.

It worked quite good on MBP 17".

At that time the price didn't fit in my budget but now I saw that they cut it.

But again the whole new package still relays on a turnkey hardware.

In this case I do have my own hardware configuration idea and

I hoped that Scratch software as a standalone package is finally available to purchase

but unfortunately it is still not.

Who knows? Maybe will never be.

It's a pity!

That's all.

Have a look at Scratch 3.9 on my MBP 17":

scratch-mbp.jpg

scratch-mbp-2.jpg

Scratch_Process.jpg

Scratch_Output.jpg
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Yes it will run on a macbook pro but for red work you *need* a more powerful system which is exactly what Assimilate has put together. I'll also say again that Scratch is absolutely tied to the nvidia quadro series with SDI card. You need the rocket *and* the quadro to get proper performance/output capabilities. The first Scratch Cine was sold as software only as well as in a bundle and Assimilate has not specifically mentioned this new offering would be any different. They are obviously pushing the bundle but you should talk to them to see if they have an offering closer to your liking. Let me just say this one more time: your macbook pro idea *will not work* for calibrated output because it lacks the nvidia quadro with SDI. The rocket is *only* used for debayering and SDK based grading. Scratch grading is done on the nvidia card and *only* output via the SDI card. The amount of money you would spend hacking a macbook to make that work would be on par with their bundled systems which are guaranteed to work and come with the oh so important support you will inevitably need.
 
I'll also say again that Scratch is absolutely tied to the nvidia quadro series with SDI card.
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In theory, Display Port will work too. There is no WFM Display Port path, but you could go Display Port from a MBP into an HP DreamColor (properly calibrated, not what comes out of the box) and grade. You would have to rely on the v5 built-in WFM, but it may be possible.
 
It really should be a no-issue to sell the existing RedRocket and get the full bundle. But that's not even neccesary if one just tries to get rid of preassumptions and READ this thread.
As of today, there simply is no 'notebook-only' 4k solution with even the slightest chance of productivity. Why would I care for an on-set hookup with a 17"MBP, Expresscard/PCI-E Extender chassis, RedRocket, external RAID, etc., on mains supply, if I can have a full system integrated within a decent tower machine + a useful choice of displays hooked on it? Makes no sense. It was time for RED Windows users to get a fast and price-sensitive realtime-solution and this Assimilate offer is an incredible value. Quite sure it will work on a bootcamp'd MacPro as well if one want's to switch temporarily e.g. from a FCP/Adobe OSX workflow to the specific on-set realtime options of this bundle.



- Carsten
 
Carsten Kurz said:
They can still rest there unused under OSX if so.

- Carsten
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Obviously you have another problem in terms of the platform war that has nothing to do with topic of this tread. Please, keep "the noise" as lower as possible!
 
I don't have any interest in platform war, as I work with both systems daily by my free decision ;-)


- Carsten
 
I hope Assimilate stays to behave the way they are.
Different companies Supporting to many hardware has given me to much headaches and worries and if something goes wrong no one takes responability anymore. So I hope they stay on a stable platform (which doesn't mean they should'nt keep up with the latest hardware), but I rather prefer limitations and higher priced hardware , then a non trustable system afterwards causing to many problems.
 
Luki,

agree there is no "any platform war" but if you could read between the lines of my posting here you could

conclude that I'm (all the time) asking for a limited, tailored and customized Scratch app for RED DIT use.

This Apple R3D DIT variant can't be priced at the point of USD10.000+ and sold as a turnkey together with several hardware partners.

What it is about?>>>

- The most RED DITs have Apple MBP 15" or 17" for many reasons...

- Apple MBPs at the newer line have NVIDIA GeForce 9400M that could be supported by Scratch in a sort of lower file conform/finishing output here...

- RED Rocket™™™™™™™™™™™ suppor of course...

- Limited or tailored finishing/conform possibility to Apple ProRes, Avid DNxHD and some other postproduction industry standard codec...

- Get opportunity to have for example GenArts Film Effects plug in to load (the best film stock simulation), Tangent Wave console (fast grade on set), etc,...

- Actually it's about a sort of tailored Scratch app that can be called even SCRATCH DIT, SCRATCH MOBILE, SCRATCH DAILIES, SCRATCH RUSHES or similar,...

- The price point should not be higher than between USD 2.500 to 3.000 because the most of DITs would not pay for more...

Also it would be I'm sure one of the best on set apps available (EVER!!!)...

Thats's it, I'm sure a lot of things here are missing but the "experts" can add of course some more things right now...

Also guaranteed market for this kind of Scratch app is about 1000 seats/license keys minimum and it would be immediate success with that volume (!!!)...
 
Well I guess it's obvious why we have these Assimilate Bundles - RED has supported the Mac platform a lot better so far and they would have had to spent their own ressources into a solid Windows based RED-ROCKET solution as well, while all windows users were still screaming for decent software-only options at a lower price point than a full assimilate suite.

I guess the Assimilate bundles now sort of balances that out and lowers the burden on REDs software department.

- Carsten
 
Carsten Kurz said:
Well I guess it's obvious why we have these Assimilate Bundles - RED has supported the Mac platform a lot better so far and they would have had to spent their own ressources into a solid Windows based RED-ROCKET solution as well. I guess the Assimilate bundle sort of balances that out.

- Carsten
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Finally everyone should know that:

"The first Macintosh computers containing Intel CPUs were announced on January 10, 2006...

And Apple can run Windows more that 3 years..."
 
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