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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Rocket Fuel...

A real ROCKET FUEL

A real ROCKET FUEL

Assimilate would earn "fortune of money" if they would customize/cut Scratch Cine for extreme

laptop use on set that could be done even on Apple MacBook Pro "17 (as I showed Scratch on MBP here a year and half ago).

What does it mean?

It means something like a custom or cut version of Scratch Cine but just for dailies to use it on set with native REDCODE RAW,

integrated real time on set fast grading dailies using Tangent Wave and RED Rocket™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™™.

Finishing and conform capabilities would be probably limited because of Scratch main app that only has full finishing/conform option and would be left to dedicated desktop turnkey Scratch system.

An ideal price for that Scratch Cine Mobile a software only package should be about US $ 2.500 per license key.

With that combo: Laptop (MBP 17"), RR with Magma/Pocket Rocket/Maxx Digital REDRocket mobile box, Wave, HP DreamColor and AJA HI5 3G HD-SDI/SDI

to HDMI 1.3a Video and Audio Converter you can show (with a bit of real-time grading) dailies shot on RED1 to customer at any hotel room.

That could be a real ROCKET FUEL.
 
Simon Blackledge said:
RedRocket has Dual SDi Out, no need for a gfx card with sdi.

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that's right. forgot about that. btw did i just make up a new product "Rocket Cine X" lol.

Hey Lucas Sanjin Jukic brought up a good question. Will Assimilate be selling Scratch Cine v5 as a stand alone software outside of the Rocket Fuel bundle?
 
Simon Blackledge said:
RedRocket has Dual SDi Out, no need for a gfx card with sdi.

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1) How will you sync the RR card in a facility?
2) How will you use machine control with RR?
3) If you are a Windows person, how will you use RR SDI out at all right now?

The RR SDI out certainly has its place.

But if you are trying to do tape dailies for a feature, or layoff a master, or integrate into a facility - it does not solve all your problems.

Lucas
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Assimilate would earn "fortune of money" if they would customize/cut Scratch Cine for extreme laptop use on set...
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1Beyond's system is specifically designed for on-set use. We are also working with MAXX Digital and they will have a solution targeted at Rocket Fuel. The MAXX guys were at our 5PM announcement yesterday, and they were very excited about it...

Sanjin Jukic said:
integrated real time on set fast grading dailies using Tangent Wave and RED Rocket
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...available with Rocket Fuel. : )

Sanjin Jukic said:
Finishing and conform capabilities would be probably limited because of Scratch main app that only has full finishing/conform option and would be left to dedicated desktop turnkey Scratch system.
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SCRATCH-CINE has the same EDL conform capability with R3D that the full SCRATCH package has.

Sanjin Jukic said:
An ideal price for that ...
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We believe Rocket Fuel is an incredible deal, and opens up RED Post Production to a very wide group of people who could not access it before, but there will always be people who want things done differently. And that is why there are lots of other tools out there!

But for those that want an inexpensive, accessible way to do full resolution, full quality R3D post-production - ASSIMILATE and its partners are providing several ways of doing that powered by Rocket Fuel.

Best,

Lucas
 
Have card

Have card

jimhare said:
Hey Lucas, exciting stuff! What if we already have a RED Rocket™™? I suppose I could sell it.
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Lucas,

I too would like to know about getting a setup but already have a card.

Bob Torrance
 
Lucas,

what ever you said it's maybe right from Assimilate point of view, but from an average RedUser point

it looks more like a Rocket Monopole then a Rocket Fuel just because is not gonna be fuel for the most of us.

Hopefully that some other developers soon would get the thing more in our direction and do it right.
 
No offense to Luki or Assimilate, but that logo is so atrocious, I thought we are all film makers here not wanna be bikers who shop at HOT TOPIC in the mall?

I am looking into Scratch 5, but if my client has to look at that logo, rather than something more sophisticated then they are going to question my billing.

Hope that is not the new look of Assimilate.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Lucas,

what ever you said it's maybe right from Assimilate point of view, but from an average RedUser point

it looks more like a Rocket Monopole then a Rocket Fuel just because is not gonna be fuel for the most of us.

Hopefully that some other developers soon would get the thing more in our direction and do it right.
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Judging from the 100+ emails I've received today from "average Redusers," it seems like we're doing it right so far!

I will be posting more configurations and pricing early next week from other reseller and hardware partners. The response has been amazing. Everything from SAN solutions to on-set tools... powered by Rocket Fuel.

Best,

Lucas



Lucas
 
John Jonathan said:
No offense to Luki or Assimilate, but that logo is so atrocious, I thought we are all film makers here not wanna be bikers who shop at HOT TOPIC in the mall?

I am looking into Scratch 5, but if my client has to look at that logo, rather than something more sophisticated then they are going to question my billing.

Hope that is not the new look of Assimilate.
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You can always change the background image in scratch to anything you like. Most people just place their own logos in its place.
 
John Jonathan said:
No offense to Luki or Assimilate, but that logo is so atrocious, I thought we are all film makers here not wanna be bikers who shop at HOT TOPIC in the mall?

I am looking into Scratch 5, but if my client has to look at that logo, rather than something more sophisticated then they are going to question my billing.

Hope that is not the new look of Assimilate.
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Seriously? Priority check in isle 3.
 
Lucas Wilson said:
Judging from the 100+ emails I've received today from "average Redusers," it seems like we're doing it right so far!

I will be posting more configurations and pricing early next week from other reseller and hardware partners. The response has been amazing. Everything from SAN solutions to on-set tools... powered by Rocket Fuel.

Best,

Lucas



Lucas
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Luki,

I can guess that you are just a representative in Assimilate and can't make decisions and I understand this.

Also I thought that Assimilate finally wants to sell a few 1000+ seats just because it is a software developer company.

But maybe I'm totally wrong here.

Looking forward to your announcement with some more options.

Said before I do have RR already and also was successfully evaluating Scratch 3.6 on my MBP 17" almost year and half ago.

In "the age of RR" I would like to have Scratch (5.0, even limited edition) as a software only to use it for on set dailies

presentation combined with Wave, big Panasonic plasma, HP Dreamcolor, AJA Hi-3G HDSDI 1.3a converter, etc...

Assimilate's best "business" partners should be actually its customers.
 
Lucas Wilson said:
1) How will you sync the RR card in a facility?
2) How will you use machine control with RR?
3) If you are a Windows person, how will you use RR SDI out at all right now?

The RR SDI out certainly has its place.

But if you are trying to do tape dailies for a feature, or layoff a master, or integrate into a facility - it does not solve all your problems.

Lucas
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Totally agree Lucas, was just saying it has sdi :-/

s
 
Just wondering if there was a Module available for RocketCine/Fuel to at least allow loading of DPX as well as R3D files would that hit the Scratch sales that much?

Solely for the purpose of just playback.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Luki,

I can guess that you are just a representative in Assimilate and can't make decisions and I understand this.

Also I thought that Assimilate finally wants to sell a few 1000+ seats just because it is a software developer company.

But maybe I'm totally wrong here.

Looking forward to your announcement with some more options.

Said before I do have RR already and also was successfully evaluating Scratch 3.6 on my MBP 17" almost year and half ago.

In "the age of RR" I would like to have Scratch (5.0, even limited edition) as a software only to use it for on set dailies

presentation combined with Wave, big Panasonic plasma, HP Dreamcolor, AJA Hi-3G HDSDI 1.3a converter, etc...

Assimilate's best "business" partners should be actually its customers.
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This is a misguided post. First of all Assimialte is a small company and Lucas has a lot of say in what products they push out. More important however, the product you are asking for is almost exactly what they released. If you add up the hardware costs in these bundles, you'll see they are selling Scratch Cine for about the same price you are asking for. Scratch on a laptop without a rocket card is pretty useless. Take it from me, someone who has struggled with liquid cooled, over clocked machines for our full Scratch suite. We have a hard enough time guaranteeing a level of performance on these machines. A macbook without a rocket card/ nvidia SDI combo would be excruciatingly slow. You would not be able to play back footage, you would not be able to make tape dailies, you would not be able to get a 10 bit signal out to a calibrated display.

The Rocket will only output a debayered/scaled image that has been graded with the SDK controls. i.e. If you were to make a primary grade using the Scratch matrix module (which is available in Scratch Cine) that would not be able to be piped out of the rocket SDI. You *must* have the nvidia SDI daughter card for a quadro series card. Scratch is very heavily tied to the nvidia cards which is the primary reason we will never see a Mac version unless the nvidia drivers become available for Mac. The application is entirely GPU based.

What you are asking for doesn't exists today, but the Scratch Cine bundles come pretty darn close to hitting your price points.
 
Emery,

nothing is misguiding there.

My wish was to get just Scratch software package only and I can do a choice of hardware configuration myself.

Also I have already RR card.

But as I can see now it's not working like that.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Emery,

nothing is misguiding there.

My wish was to get just Scratch software package only and I can do a choice of hardware configuration myself.

Also I have already RR card.

But as I can see now it's not working like that.
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If you are serious about getting the software and configuring your own hardware you should contact Lucas directly at lucas (at) assimilateinc (dot) com and see what you guys can work out. Otherwise people will interpret your posts as the usual forum whining.
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Emery,

nothing is misguiding there.

My wish was to get just Scratch software package only and I can do a choice of hardware configuration myself.

Also I have already RR card.

But as I can see now it's not working like that.
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Im in the same boat Sanjin-

I own a red rocket card already and would just like the effective "deal" on the software. But
who knows how/where Assimilate is getting the pricing help.

I'll email Lucas because this thread HAS answered a lot of my questions
and this solution sounds smart at our facility. Whether we go Scratch 5 or Quantel or any other Finishing system. It makes sense.

But not if I have to buy another RR. :(
 
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