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If I drop by and visit Odemax at the Kimbal Arts Center at Sundance who will I meet, what will I see and learn? Going to be in Park City next week and just wondering if its worth my time to stop by.
 
Are they going to be there next week? I thought their presence was thursday thru sunday for the festival...?
 
We all know the specs of RR.
Does anybody knows the .RED file specs
Max res I guess 4096x2048
Pixel Depth RGB ? ? ?
compression ratios from .R3D (max,min)
Compression format ?
etc...
 
Keep in mind that these are the specs for the stand alone Red Ray Player. The Red Ray's that will be integrated into the projectors will have higher colour bit depth as the internal players won't be limited by the HDMI Spec.

Larry
 
Yes, that is why I asked for .RED specs not RR specs.
RR is limited to HDMI 1.4a specs. and it is hardware limitation not the .RED limitation.
Internal video path of RR is running higher bit depth.
But hardware aside, what is maximum specification of the .RED?
I know that any firmware revision may change it but would be good to know what is the near future performance of .RED

I wouldn’t be surprised that RED is keeping it at 16 bit even if not full bit depth could be filled out after compression from R3D to .RED
20mbit/sec is still substantial speed taking under account that probably it is temporal compression.
Human eye has very poor detail perception when there is a movement so why not to use it.

However I would love to go frame by frame on RR and see effect of it if any.
I suspect much more than that is involved in such good compression performance.

Andrew
 
BTW I went today to check SONY QHD panel "TV" 3840x2160
The positive thing I have noticed, it runs 3D on passive glasses but only on HD resolution.
For QHD I think one will need active 3D glasses. Sony guy was almost sure that it is the case.
Poor guys do not have any QHD player to demo it so they run it, .....off the desktop computer.
Checked it myself, connected with one HDMI 1.4a cable that is all.

Though it would be nicer if it would be 4K panel not QHD/UHD.
 
There are no defined limitations of the .RED spec. As mentioned, the limitations are going to come from the playback side.. and that will likely evolve over time.
 
Thank you Jarred, so I guess the only limitation is R3D as per Graeme.
This is awesome!!

"The + part is that some of the internal SDK decode and processing is done at float precision, the rest being 16bit precision. The R3D itself is 16bit precision too.

Graeme "
 
Thank you Jarred, so I guess the only limitation is R3D as per Graeme.
This is awesome!!

"The + part is that some of the internal SDK decode and processing is done at float precision, the rest being 16bit precision. The R3D itself is 16bit precision too.

Graeme "


I hardly see R3D as a limitation, and as REDRay encoder isn't limited to .R3D, it's most definitely no kind of limitation at all.

Graeme
 
Thank you Graeme, I forgot that RR can ingest other data files not only .R3D
So it is kind of open platform limited by the hardware of the monitor or projector we are using and in this moment for the consumer version by HDMI 1.4a specs and for Crimson projector there is no such limitation, correct?
 
This is really getting worrisome. In addition to Red folks here ignoring questions about ODEMAX at Sundance, I've tweeted at Offhollywood on Twitter (Mark is at Sundance) asking him about it. No response, and dude is usually very quick to respond. Google searches for mentions of ODEMAX at Sundance turn up nothing other than the original announcement.

Did the ODEMAX debut at Sundance get cancelled?

Just saw this on the ODEMAX Twtter account: "Well, the FLU has not only ravaged Sundance, but managed to clobber the 4 ODEMAX presenters. We're here, but it's ugly."
 
Any plans to release RR – Professional for guys that owe RED cameras that can play .R3D files and has SSD slot in it and some very very basic color correction via small LCD menus plus Color space and maybe LUT selection?

So we don’t have to use our cameras or portable RED Rocket+laptop for quick playback on the large screen?

Do I read it right, RR will play .R3D without conversion to .RED?
"-Yes.. it will support DPX/TIFF image sequences the day it launches ( as well as .R3D of course )
Jarred”


Andrew
 
Do I read it right, RR will play .R3D without conversion to .RED?
"-Yes.. it will support DPX/TIFF image sequences the day it launches ( as well as .R3D of course )
Jarred

Not right. That reply was in response to a question of what formats the RR Encoder will support. The REDRAY doesn't playback .R3Ds. It does support .RED and .MP4 formats at the moment.

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