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RED WEAPON - Info and Data Sheets

Josef Gatti said:
Hi Phil,

Could you link me to any reference about Epic MX upgrades to Dragon ending? I can't seem to find any. If this is true my heart will truly be broken. I've been working on a feature film for the last 18 months for pennies and have not been able to afford the upgrade, and I'll likely be in this boat for another 6 months. I want to upgrade but this is just not possible for me right now.
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Jarred said the assembly lines would transfer over to Weapon upgrades some time next summer IIRC. (I'll look for the post.) I am sure more info will be provided well in advance.
 
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Josef Gatti said:
Hi Phil,

Could you link me to any reference about Epic MX upgrades to Dragon ending? I can't seem to find any. If this is true my heart will truly be broken. I've been working on a feature film for the last 18 months for pennies and have not been able to afford the upgrade, and I'll likely be in this boat for another 6 months. I want to upgrade but this is just not possible for me right now.
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A feature for 18 months for just pennies?!

Anyways. Here's Jarred's quote:

Jarred Land said:
Come summer our MX to Dragon upgrade line changes over so the old process logistically needs to end.
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The actual date is approximately the end of June 2015. However, there is moderately good news. You can upgrade at a discounted rate of what looks to be $9500 starting Monday the 23rd and this will run through NAB 2015.

You won't have 6 to get your ducks in a row though. You've got about 2 or 4 depending on how you want to proceed.
 
Where did that WeaponIO picture come from? I can't find the source... Is it what I think it is (XLRs with physical control knobs)?
 
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Mike P. said:
Where did that WeaponIO picture come from? I can't find the source... Is it what I think it is (XLRs with physical control knobs)?
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I honestly don't know which of the pictures you're referring to. There is a picture of something with pins and ports, but that could be a closeup of anything really.
 
Phil Holland said:
A feature for 18 months for just pennies?!

The actual date is approximately the end of June 2015. However, there is moderately good news. You can upgrade at a discounted rate of what looks to be $9500 starting Monday the 23rd and this will run through NAB 2015.

You won't have 6 to get your ducks in a row though. You've got about 2 or 4 depending on how you want to proceed.
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Pretty crazy eh, it's a project I'm producing and shot (on MX) and have put my life on hold to complete. I know it's crazy but getting funding for features down under is immensely difficult.

That is good news for others about the $9500 tag, but unfortunately I won't be able to swing that in the time frame. The timing is devastating.
 
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Updated with the new pricing on the Mysterium-X to Dragon upgrade in the first post.
 
Phil Holland said:
I honestly don't know which of the pictures you're referring to. There is a picture of something with pins and ports, but that could be a closeup of anything really.
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The one with the REDvolt XL Eject Button -- right above it, it says "Weapon I/O" in what looks like a module-adapter sized (thinner, actually) piece...
 
Josef Gatti said:
Pretty crazy eh, it's a project I'm producing and shot (on MX) and have put my life on hold to complete. I know it's crazy but getting funding for features down under is immensely difficult.

That is good news for others about the $9500 tag, but unfortunately I won't be able to swing that in the time frame. The timing is devastating.
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Josef, I can relate. I don't know either if I'll be able to make the upgrade in time.
There's always the option of selling the equipment and buying new. How much of a difference this will mean is uncertain.
I now of at least one person who sold his scarletX and bought a scarletD new because it didn't make much difference price wise. I think I remember it even came cheaper for him.
 
Patrick Grossien said:
Josef, I can relate. I don't know either if I'll be able to make the upgrade in time.
There's always the option of selling the equipment and buying new. How much of a difference this will mean is uncertain.
I now of at least one person who sold his scarletX and bought a scarletD new because it didn't make much difference price wise. I think I remember it even came cheaper for him.
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It's comforting knowing I'm not the only one in this situation. Very frustrating. Selling the equipment and buying new may make a lot of sense, especially if any of the media/accessories (1.8 SSDs, potentially side handle etc) will not work with the new form factor. Time will tell.
 
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Phil Holland said:
Updated with the new pricing on the Mysterium-X to Dragon upgrade in the first post.
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Phil, you might want to add, that

If you own a Dragon until the day before NAB you get an extra RED store credit towards acc, etc. when purchasing the Weapon upgrade. The amount of the credit depends on the amount of dragon upgrades done by then. Or - which is somewhat unclear - you can "buy" yourself an earlier upgrade spot in the line.
(So the update doesn't come cheaper per se when you own dragon before NAB, but you get a credit to spend on other stuff.)

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Yes but the price doesn't actually go down, you just get an extra credit of the difference put back on your account. You can use that credit towards an early spot for the weapon upgrade @ NAB if you want, or on accessories etc.
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Hi Phill,

How will this effect our RedRockets? Will they still work with the Weapon Sensor?

Best!
Wez
 
I dont mind a name discussion but this thread is supossed to be known info and no to very little noise. So please start a new thread about the name. Thank you please:)
 
Joel Arvidsson said:
I dont mind a name discussion but this thread is supossed to be known info and no to very little noise. So please start a new thread about the name. Thank you please:)
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Totally agree!!
 
It's been mentioned inconclusively that people who upgrade to dragon before nab will get a nice chunk of change back / a discount or credit towards an additional weapon upgrade. Is this seperate from the price being lowered back down to $9500?

An explicit statement about all the discounts available along the entire upgrade path epic>dragon>weapon would be very helpful. Thanks!
 
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What I don't understand is why make the upgrade a two step process? What is the big hurry to get something new out? I think Red should take their time and make a product that is ready to be rolled out complete. I am in no hurry to upgrade my Dragon, I would prefer to wait to do the body upgrade, when the sensor is ready... upgrade both at once. Then there is less downtime shipping the camera back to Red and the firmware/color science will have the bugs worked out.

I know they have not released any specs so maybe there will be a reason to upgrade but at this point my opinion is you are putting the cart before the horse.
 
gregkraus said:
What I don't understand is why make the upgrade a two step process? What is the big hurry to get something new out? I think Red should take their time and make a product that is ready to be rolled out complete. I am in no hurry to upgrade my Dragon, I would prefer to wait to do the body upgrade, when the sensor is ready... upgrade both at once. Then there is less down downtime shipping the camera back to Red and the firmware and color science will have the bugs worked out.

I know they have not released any specs so maybe there will be a reason to upgrade but at this point my opinion is you are putting the cart before the horse.
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There is a sense that this is a body upgrade and not a sensor upgrade. So, assuming this is correct, waiting for a sensor to be ready is not part of the process. I think what Jarred is doing is giving the best head's up - and the opportunity for "the faithful" to potentially save some money - while allowing RED to plan better for the transition forward. My take. No guarantees I know of what I speak. :-)
 
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