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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RED Rocket update...

RED ROCKET will decode the R3D files in real time - the encoding side still needs to be done via the CPU and available processors. What isn't clear is whether we can pull two streams of 1/2 debayer and process to different CPU's etc. RED ROCKET is half the equation. I can see it as a great dailies player over the output to monitors and such while on set, etc. It will be interesting to see what this is exactly once we see the SDK and the hardware.

Michael
 
Not only that. It will be fantastic transcoding card. I transcode 100% of my footage before editing and this will speed it up tenfold.

SDK or not, this will do it out of the box with RA/RR and that is no minor point.

I can see it as a great dailies player over the output to monitors and such while on set, etc.

Michael
 
Not only that. It will be fantastic transcoding card. I transcode 100% of my footage before editing and this will speed it up tenfold.

SDK or not, this will do it out of the box with RA/RR and that is no minor point.

guess playback and viewing in full quality will be RT. Transcoding still depends on the cpu, hence can take a long time.

this will be an advantage for fcp and mainly premiere, aivd MC cant read r3d files natively asfaik...correct me if im wrong
 
FCP cannot currently read native R3D files, either. Let's cross our fingers for the new FCP later this year...

Also, Jim, have you heard a "tenfold" increase? I have not heard that much. I'm expecting big things, but that would be huge. Not sure if we'll get there...
 
[QUOTEIt will be fantastic transcoding card. I transcode 100% of my footage before editing and this will speed it up tenfold.[/QUOTE]

10 fold increase in the decoding of a full 4K frame? Encoding would be the same unless there are accelerators on the card for encoding as well to a different format.

Again, details are what we read here, and I have not read any benchmarks for transcoding processes.

Michael
 
10 fold increase in the decoding of a full 4K frame? Encoding would be the same unless there are accelerators on the card for encoding as well to a different format.

Again, details are what we read here, and I have not read any benchmarks for transcoding processes.

Michael

The question here is in a given system what percentage of your time is taken up Encoding to your format versus Debayering from R3D.

Won't know until the Cards come out, but if you wanted to get an indication of performance differences on a given system the time differences between encoding a clip at 4K in 'None' codec in QT to your deliverable and doing the same process through Redline/Redrushes/Clipfinder from the R3D. The difference (minus any overhead from passing through from the card to the CPU) should be indicative of the expected speed increase, no? (assuming you don't have a hard drive bottleneck on the 4K 'None' codec QT.)
 
It looks like we shipped the 1st handful of RED Rocket™™ cards out today and I want to thank our development team, especially Deanan and Rob, for the many sleepless nights they have spent so we could all sleep tight (much faster transcoding). I'd also like to thank DVS for giving us a hand with a couple of difficult issues.

Jim
 
Wow, can't wait to get it. Is there any email notification when it ships?

Thanks! Looking forward to the power...now let's start bugging Apple to get FCP out there with support!
 
You will get notification when your number is up. Next week should be a much larger shipment so quite a few of you will be getting emails.

As you can see.. the first couple of batches will be on Green PCBs. Production will move to Red PCB's on the later batches.

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Fantastic news Jim. Any estimations of how long it might take to fulfill current orders? I have no idea where we fall in the list.
 
A green PCI card buried inside of my Mac? Forget it, give me my money back. :-)

Kidding. Thanks for the update. We look forward to seeing some real time R3D's...

Kevin
 
The question here is in a given system what percentage of your time is taken up Encoding to your format versus Debayering from R3D.

Well, if you're encoding to a codec that you can capture to from an incoming stream (like tape), then: debayer+decode=RT + encode=RT. So, RT+RT should =RT(right?). Or is there something missing in my math?
 
Wow, thats really exciting. Would love to use one of these in the future. I assume it could be used with a projector (4k or otherwise) to color grading... not just monitors?

-Josh
 
I'd also like to thank DVS for giving us a hand with a couple of difficult issues.

Jim

Does this mean we can infer that the card is partly OEM'd from DVS? I don't say that as a bad thing or disparaging to RED, merely out of curiosity. IP sharing is key.
 
FCP cannot currently read native R3D files, either. Let's cross our fingers for the new FCP later this year...

Uh, yes it can. Unfortunately it's not friendly to 3K and it halves 4K to 2K... :ack2: I know it pulls in the R3D files via L&T and "wraps" them, but it's still the native R3D files.

Awesome news, the Rockets are starting to ship! :)
 
Excellent. I've decided that I need to do most of my color grading at night or in a dark room anyways because the lights in this office are horrible so a good projector would be worth it... just don't explain to accounting how changing the lights and wall color would be cheaper than a good projector and screen. :p

-Josh
 
Uh, yes it can. Unfortunately it's not friendly to 3K and it halves 4K to 2K... :ack2: I know it pulls in the R3D files via L&T and "wraps" them, but it's still the native R3D files.

Awesome news, the Rockets are starting to ship! :)



Well, I guess I don't call that "native" then...maybe you do. On long interview files we do, it still take a bit of time to get them all in via L&T, which we don't really use anyways. Oh well...you know what I'm saying.
 
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