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RED Roadmap...

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RED is on fire... you just haven't seen it yet.

Jim
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we can tell... lot of anticipation and energy coming out of RED the last few weeks it seems...
 
I agree, it is clear now that Scarlet is not the Scarlet of the prototype versions we've seen before. I predicted it would not ship with a 3K sensor months ago but be capable of 4K and it is looking more and more like that will be a reality. Fixed lens version? likely not in the cards either now. To me it seemed contradictory based on the belief of Red that 2K is not adequate for cinema production so why would they release a camera that can only be finished in 2K?

Scarlet, 4K PL
Scarlet, 4K Cannon or Nikon mount option.

I see this as an option for Scarlet unlike the m, or X because of the targeted price point of Scarlet compared to the cost of the mount as well as the benefit of luring all those HDSLR users away from the upcoming options from Canon, and Nikon who would rarely or never shoot with pl lenses.

Regardless of which direction Red steers this thing, I am looking forward to owning my first Red camera which will be a Scarlet. We are also counting the days waiting for our X to show up to our local Coop. We are around number 1115. Anyone have an idea how fast they are shipping?

Larry
 
Larry Kelly said:
I agree, it is clear now that Scarlet is not the Scarlet of the prototype versions we've seen before. I predicted it would not ship with a 3K sensor months ago but be capable of 4K and it is looking more and more like that will be a reality. Fixed lens version? likely not in the cards either now. To me it seemed contradictory based on the belief of Red that 2K is not adequate for cinema production so why would they release a camera that can only be finished in 2K?

Scarlet, 4K PL
Scarlet, 4K Cannon or Nikon mount option.

I see this as an option for Scarlet unlike the m, or X because of the targeted price point of Scarlet compared to the cost of the mount as well as the benefit of luring all those HDSLR users away from the upcoming options from Canon, and Nikon who would rarely or never shoot with pl lenses.

Regardless of which direction Red steers this thing, I am looking forward to owning my first Red camera which will be a Scarlet. We are also counting the days waiting for our X to show up to our local Coop. We are around number 1115. Anyone have an idea how fast they are shipping?

Larry
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I don't think RED would put in the time and effort to develop a state of the art Fixed lens and proudly show it off at all the shows only to scrap it later.
 
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Pierre T. said:
The Red Company may be not as different as claimed, after all ...
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Then I say that you should just get out there and buy the competitors' sub-$12K RAW better-than-2K ultra-high definition HDRx camera. I say, vote with your dollars!!....oh wait, *headsmack*,...

I kid, I kid.

Just be patient, Pierre. Every change that RED has made to their program has been an improvement over their user base's expectations. Scarlet/EPIC-S will be amazing.

RED does not pull punches. Everything in their track record so far shows that they over-deliver on features. (Just not always on schedule...)
 
Jim...i thought u say you are not going to reveal what you are going to do anymore. Once it's ready you will announce ?
 
Jannard said:
EPIC-M- shipping

EPIC-X- shipping

Scarlet

REDray

Dragon update

RED projection

Monstro 645 DSMC

Monstro 617 DSMC

Surprise #1

Surprise #2

We reserve the right to change everything as needed...

Jim
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Thanks for the map Jim, but as you are talking about the 3d projection now, does that mean it is real soon and the scarlet and Redray is coming sooner? You did say that Red would no longer talk about things before they were ready ;) .
 
He's not revealing anything new, just reinforcing what has already been put out there so that people keep the faith.

With respect to the fixed lens system you may be right, but the 3k path just doesn't seem right to me based on Red's philosophy and the hints along the way.

Larry
 
Larry Kelly said:
He's not revealing anything new, just reinforcing what has already been put out there so that people keep the faith.

With respect to the fixed lens system you may be right, but the 3k path just doesn't seem right to me based on Red's philosophy and the hints along the way.

Larry
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It's up to Jim really. But obviously im mistaken or misinterpret about his phylosophy changes. It's not about old or new but...the revealing part..
 
Tim Nitsch said:
I don't think RED would put in the time and effort to develop a state of the art Fixed lens and proudly show it off at all the shows only to scrap it later.
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Yes, I think THEY can... (I also think it will not be the first time they do it) The knowledge and experience they gainned from the R&D isn't lost and can be used to develop other variations much faster.
 
There are too many of us counting on the Epic-S. If anything I see a name change for the camera, which is fine and might be less confusing for people. But dropping it entirely? I don't think RED would screw us like that. I have faith!
 
Jim,

And of course all of these will be available before the Chrismas shopping season? :001_tongue:
 
I would be nervous about the FF35 line disappearing... but the Epic-S is gone too. And by the time Epic-S starts shipping the Dragon sensor should be shipping as well.

This is reduser so what's a thread without wild speculation:

- Epic-X was supposed to be out by now so it was designed for the Mysterium X.
- Instead we got over a year of upgraded RED Ones and 6 months of Epic-Ms.
- Sensors weren't supposed to be upgrade-able but Epics don't start shipping in volume probably until October.
- The new Monstro sensors will be ready by Spring and the one thing in RED's dev cycles that have almost always been on time is the sensor.
- Customers would look at Epic and say to themselves... "Not upgradable and only 3 months before it's obsolete?"
- Enter Dragon announcement.
- Scarlet S35 gets pushed back along with Epic and consolidated into the Epic-X for practical production reasons. With a couple month delay on Epic-X it'll have even less time before the new sensor line is ready. So what was supposed to be out for a year or 6 months before Monstro/Dragon is now only a month or two. "Not upgradable and only a month before it's obsolete?"

So here is my uninformed prediction from someone who knows nothing.

1) Dragon is FF35. 2) Epic-S has been delayed until May/June to incorporate dragon at launch but 6k will only be doable maybe without HDRx (?which is fine with Dragon?) or else in burst for stills.

There are your two surprises. Or at least I hope those are the two.
 
the roadmap jim put up, then commented on to say that RED reserves the right to change at will, indicates that the order the roadmap is listed does not indicate the order of the release of each product only a very very loose guideline.
 
Jarek Zabczynski said:
There are too many of us counting on the Epic-S. If anything I see a name change for the camera, which is fine and might be less confusing for people. But dropping it entirely? I don't think RED would screw us like that. I have faith!
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Jarek, I think we are the few who still have faith in the Epic S.
 
How about 5k for 5k? Not sure where I got that idea. :001_tongue:
 
Ok, so it looks like Epic-S is on the chopping block.

What about Scarlet? Does the single entry mean Scarlet Fixed/Scarlet Cinema are released simultaneously or does it mean just Scarlet Fixed and Scarlet Cinema was on the chopping block?

No complaints, I'd just like a clarification.
 
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