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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RED Projector...

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Benoît-Joan Clariana-Roig said:
Sure...but we'll need better stories too. I'm fed up of "popcorn" movies. I want movies I can remember for a lifetime...
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Could not agree with you more, we are suffering a great decline in story telling over the last decade...but I have hope. ;) Look what this community alone has generated.

Cant wait to see the results of this beast Jim, do we have to wait until NAB?
 
Mike Prevette said:
2) Probably the most important thing and the real differentiator, and the thing that makes them look most like a cibachrome. THEY DO NOT PROJECT BLACK!, every other projector technology works by emitting 100% brightness uniformly and then either blocking or not reflecting the black parts of the image. Tack on the loss of contrast from passing the light through a lens and all of a sudden your blacks are really just grey. I can't stress enough how big of a deal this is. Scanning laser projectors just turn off for the black part of the image creating amazing contrast and fidelity.
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Not every other projection technology tries to project black......CRT projectors (those heavy beasts long hailed as the kings of home theater cinema quality) do not have to project black as digital projectors do. The CRTs can turn off completely for black areas of the image, achieving an infinite on/off contrast ratio. When I had my CRT projector the on/off contrast was infinite. I used a custom low end gamma bump for shadow detail which left absolute black as the absence of light. The picture in dark scenes was SOOO rich, organic and amazing. I assume laser could be just like this only brighter and a bit sharper with higher ansi (mixed scene) contrast. However, JVC has closed the gap considerably of black level with their RS series. The RS1 was the biggest leap in black level & on/off contrast I've seen in digital projection.

I've always hoped a laser projector would come out able to do what CRT could to minus the short comings such as lumen output.
 
Just saw the projector today. Everything they are saying is true.

Images are Cibachrome vivid. 3D is super bright with no active glasses.

NO FLICKER!!!

Also--3D has an excellent field of view. I went right up to the screen and felt like I could put my hand inside the screen--there was that much depth AND that was me standing off to the side.

The simplicity and the scalability of the system blew me away. Thanks to Jarred for accommodating me and kudos to everyone who has worked on this project so far. I can't wait for this to be released--it puts everything else I've ever seen projected to shame.

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Hmmm... can the primaries be altered by altering the NM Wavelength thats outputted per laser???
 
Torrey Loomis said:
Just saw the projector today. Everything they are saying is true.

Images are Cibachrome vivid. 3D is super bright with no active glasses.

NO FLICKER!!!

Also--3D has an excellent field of view. I went right up to the screen and felt like I could put my hand inside the screen--there was that much depth AND that was me standing off to the side.

The simplicity and the scalability of the system blew me away. Thanks to Jarred for accommodating me and kudos to everyone who has worked on this project so far. I can't wait for this to be released--it puts everything else I've ever seen projected to shame.

Torrey
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Torrey Loomis
President & CEO - Silverado Systems, Inc.
(916) 760-0032 • FAX (916) 404-5258
torrey@silverado.cc

Web http://www.Silverado.cc
Blog http://Studiobuilder.tv/
Twitter http://www.twitter.com/silveradosys
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zLUCKY BASTAGE TOR! - This product and RED RAY have had me scheming for 2 years... this is the most exciting news... despite the X domination, RED is just getting started.
 
Does anyone know if this is a projector which can be used in a large theatre for commercial use?
 
guys talking projectors available today :
is there any 4K or 2K for color grading purpose (to cover let's say a 200 inches screen ?) something around 10-15 usd ?
or just HD at that price ? (if so , which one ?)

thanks a lot

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Ross Isaacs said:
Does anyone know if this is a projector which can be used in a large theatre for commercial use?
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It's for whomever wants to use it for whatever purpose, be it in the home, cinema, post-production house, or other places.
 
Ross--from what I saw, it scales WAY up.

TL
 
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@TL, can you comment on technical details? Most importantly, is it a conventional approach with conventional panels (DLP, D-ILA or similar)? Or is it a scanning implementation?
 
Would love to learn more about this since jvc projector that I have is unwatchable in 3d after 400 hours. I feel like I got taken to the bank with my jvc x3 projector
 
Oh Please oh please oh please, I dont mind too much the price, but I HOPE its deployable in a small sized DI theeater!
 
I'm very interested to hear more about the RED projector, particularly in terms of color accuracy and overall longevity. Been looking at production monitors but they all seem to have tradeoffs unless I pay a slight premium for OLED and projection monitoring just didn't seem practical for me especially when you have to settle for 1080P. Can't wait to hear more!
 
There are two models, right? A "home" version - has its abilities to be used in the RED post workflow been discussed, hinted at?
Compared to some of the better more affordable monitors out there, how well do projectors fair in this regard?

Oops, CORRECTION, I believe that should read "one projector" for both "theatre and home".
 
Will it maintain resolution across both eyes?
Say, if it is a 4K projector, Will one eye only see 2K pixels?
The 3D monitor I'm working on does this, 1920 is only 960 per eye. Clients tend to notice.
3D is a new world for me, bare in mind.
 
Axel Mertes said:
Toshiba has a QHD display for less than 8000 Euros - thats what I was told at the JVC booth, as they used it to demonstrate their new QHD handycam (which is marvelos small for what it does).

So buying a panel for 40K$ at Chi Mei is - honestly - nonsense.

You can get even cheaper true DCI 4K displays e.g. from Eyevis... Just saw a bunch of them on IBC.

4K is coming the same way HD comes. I remember the days where the first full HD displays had actually a price tag of a mid class car. Now you get 50" screens for less than 1000...

Axel
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The width of the glass substrates for consumer sets (from which large panels are cut) is approx 120 inches so the foundation already exists for 4k to be developed from existing factories by using full width of the substrate instead of cutting it. The Gen 10 substrate from Corning/Sharpe is 2,850 x 3,050 mm approx 9 feet x 10 feet. They can cut fifteen 42 inch (diagonal) HD panels or in theory two 9 feet x 5 feet panels at 4k or 8k.

Sharpe showed a 85 inch Super Hi Vision 8k x 4k reference monitor at ceatec exhibition last week.
Sharpe say "The 85-inch size is the size of screen necessary to enjoy the super high definition of Super Hi-Vision and was assumed as the size given the need to install it in a home. With the aim of commercialization for the Super Hi-Vision test broadcasts from 2020"

My opinion based on current technologies is that glass/plastic panels up to 120 inches will be more desirable for home use as they have deeper blacks than image projection onto a white screen due to the ambient light levels in the average home living room. (home theatre rooms are a different story)
Perhaps there is scope for a funky active "black screen" that reacts to a laser?

Yeah I paid £18k for a 24 inch crt when I bought my f900 in 2003, i was paranoid about focus :) so the only way to learn about high res is to be able to view it, preferably live, so roll on 4k displays/projection and a live 4k output from cameras of course.


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