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RED ONE meets Mysterium-X

First of all the on the new Red One Mysterium-X, the image looks just simply GREAT, and the 640 ISO/ASA it’s just in keeping that the camera really never to grow obsolete. CONGRATULATIONS! However the question persists, what are the FULL AREA OF THE SENSOR and ACTIVE PIXEL ARRAY? I keep on looking at the marks of the Snow White Dog and I see different marks on the image. Thank you!

Humberto Rivera
 

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Jarred Land said:
yup as exciting as shooting boring charts is, I know they are important for you guys and they will come shortly..we are still working on the color science for the new sensor so it wouldn't be a good comparison just yet.

OK, do you have a pet zebra?
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Just an educated guess, but it's been said that the photosites on Mysterium-X are 5.4 microns, which means the same size as the RED One. So, the sensor should be the same ~4900 pixels wide, or possibly a full 5K width like in the upcoming Scarlet/Epic. The active area looks to be at least the 4520 active area width of the RED One. Now we have to wonder, if the sensor upgrade for the RED One will be 16:9 like the current Mysterium or if it will be 2:1 like the Mysterium-X S35 Scarlet/Epic.
 
Jeff, I was just thinking about-it, I think you are right about it being the same size as the current sensor. The key was that they said that it would be “4.5K”, if it were to be the “5K” it would have to be the S35/X35 sensor.

Humberto Rivera
 
The sensor in the Epic/Scarlet S35 and the R1 upgrade are the same. The RED ONE can only record a certain amount of bits through it's internal pipes however, so it cannot record the full 5k that Epic/Scarlet can.
 
Jarred Land said:
The sensor in the Epic/Scarlet S35 and the R1 upgrade are the same. The RED ONE can only record a certain amount of bits through it's internal pipes however, so it cannot record the full 5k that Epic/Scarlet can.
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RED1 or Epic/Scarlet are computers inside anyway.

So it means if you upgrade sensor on older "motherboard" like with R1 you don't get faster "inner" data transfer (measured in bits).

But with that sensor upgrade you would get a higher "native" ISO and stop or two in DR...

You would need a new motherboard (Epic/Scarlet) with the same sensor to take a full advantage of sensor's size with much faster "inner" data transfer.

That's about Epic/Scarlet S35 with 5K base sensor to get totally full 4K image during de-Bayer process...

Right?
 
R1 today in 4.5K in 2.40:1 in progress?

R1 today in 4.5K in 2.40:1 in progress?

Jarred Land said:
The sensor in the Epic/Scarlet S35 and the R1 upgrade are the same. The RED ONE can only record a certain amount of bits through it's internal pipes however, so it cannot record the full 5k that Epic/Scarlet can.
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The R1 we have now was promised that it could shoot with its old cmos a 2.40:1 in 4.5K are you still working on that too?

Robert
R1 1265
 
Going back to the chart that was published when all the new models were announced, at that time it was published that the Red One was going to be 4.5K,with a 4900 mm X 2580 mm ACTIVE PIXEL ARRAY, which will be 12.6 megapixels, at REDCODE 36, with a maximum frames per second of 30. The only difference would be the increase in one stop of ISO/ASA. It’s that still true?

Humberto Rivera
 
Brook Willard said:
Will 12-bit RC36 be enough to realize a significant dynamic range increase?
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Absolutely. That's all we have to work with right now and the difference is easy to see.

Jim
 
Jim are you planning on releasing Epic-X only after the new RED Codes are ready to go?

I am sure most of us wouldn't mind getting the faster hardware, new sensor, and new form factor and be "limited" to RC36 for a while. Also I doubt anyone would consider it a "beta" if that were all that was to come at a later date.
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
Jim are you planning on releasing Epic-X only after the new RED Codes are ready to go?

I am sure most of us wouldn't mind getting the faster hardware, new sensor, and new form factor and be "limited" to RC36 for a while. Also I doubt anyone would consider it a "beta" if that were all that was to come at a later date.
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During the last quarter of the year you would get (maybe) the first R1 sensor upgrade (Mysterium-X),

and next year (when?) maybe even some of new hardware (Scarlet/Epic).

Sensor development has (always) priority, all other things can still wait a bit just because

of global economy, shaky market, difficult supplies,...

also technical design development, hardware testing, optimizing, etc,...

It needs and takes time...
 
That image is insane!

Knock Knock. Looks like Canon and Nikon are still sleeping. I honestly don't think they'll notice until it is far too late. However it will be nice to go into BestBuy in the future and purchase a spare Red DMSC knowing that you will be getting the best performance/priced hardware along with constantly improving software and firmware.
 
Wow incredible!
Waiting for my brand new Red1-X
Thank you Jarred and RED TEam

Go Jim go

:gun:
 
Humberto Rivera said:
Going back to the chart that was published when all the new models were announced, at that time it was published that the Red One was going to be 4.5K,with a 4900 mm X 2580 mm ACTIVE PIXEL ARRAY, which will be 12.6 megapixels, at REDCODE 36, with a maximum frames per second of 30. The only difference would be the increase in one stop of ISO/ASA. It’s that still true?

Humberto Rivera
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If that is all that is given by this sensor, then I am more then happy. You all can have you added resolution- I just want more Dynamic Range. :) (I am a DR junky.)
 
14 bit AD?

14 bit AD?

Impressive! but the competition will note that it isn't the "dogs bollocks" :)

Jarred, is this image produced using the old 12 bit AD or new 14 bit AD?



Mike Brennan
 
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